: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:50 am  

The Dentist Wilf wrote:

Shaun Long Background information

As it is a while till the next Diary I thought you might find this interesting it comes from various friends over the pennines and although you might not believe it I know it to be 100% true because i know the folks involved.

late last week the Wigan Chairman flew back to this country from a signing trip to Aus. empty handed. He had found as many clubs have, that aussie players are holding us all over here to ransom and using a possible move here as a tool to increase their own contracts back home. He had decided that he would go with his coaches views and grab Shaun Long from their local rivals. On Sunday when our club thought everything was sorted, it came to light that Shaun had been visited by Noble and their Chairman to sell him the 'Wigan Dream', they even sent a couple of Wigan players to see him at home on Sunday afternoon. however although their offer was a very good one, Long, declined and decided to come to Hull. This decision I am told by folks who know the Saints players was solely based on the way he had hit it off with Agar and the vision and ideas that our coach put to him. He is truely excited by the move.

Richard Agar I believe has been instrumental in both our last two signings , and has sold the club by having a vision and a interesting list of possible aquisitions that the club are chasing. I critisised him recently for his tactics but on this occassion he deserves some praise I think!

Can somebody confirm who the GB coach was when Long left the tour down under early?
Wasn't Nobby in charge then?
Is this another reason why he chose us................cos he can't stand him??

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:52 am  

Derek Rigby wrote:

Can somebody confirm who the GB coach was when Long left the tour down under early?
Wasn't Nobby in charge then?
Is this another reason why he chose us................cos he can't stand him??

Yes it was Nobby.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:57 am  

FoD FC Army wrote:

Just to put your mind at rest, Raggytash is no troll and has been a season pass holder for many, many years. He has earned the right to be cynical about the decisions made by the club.

Perhaps Sean will announce how much extra cash he turned down from Wigan so that he could play for Hull/Agar. He will have made the best decision for him and his family, and would not have turned down significantly more money from Wigan.

RT has every right to doubt what I say he is a hardened and good supporter of many years, however on this occassion what I say is right, and has been confirmed in part by the Mail any way! I just thought that folks on hear would like to know just what lenghts Wigan went to to get him and how he had the courage to stand by his original agreement, I am not saying that money did not come into it , but Wigans was described to me as a very generous offer! o all I am saying on this occassion at least, well done Agar!

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:03 pm  

Thinking about it, even if you only get six months of quality service out of Long he'll have repaid the investment.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:07 pm  

The Dentist Wilf wrote:

RT has every right to doubt what I say he is a hardened and good supporter of many years, however on this occassion what I say is right, and has been confirmed in part by the Mail any way! I just thought that folks on hear would like to know just what lenghts Wigan went to to get him and how he had the courage to stand by his original agreement, I am not saying that money did not come into it , but Wigans was described to me as a very generous offer! o all I am saying on this occassion at least, well done Agar!

I did not hear the interview on Humberside Sean Long gave last night, did anyone else? I was told though he has been offered some kind of coaching role at FC? If true would be great IMO.
That's if the club don't sack him for speaking to Humberside! (unless Humberside nicked the interview from another local station?)

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:11 pm  

hull smallears wrote:

I did not hear the interview on Humberside Sean Long gave last night, did anyone else? I was told though he has been offered some kind of coaching role at FC? If true would be great IMO.
That's if the club don't sack him for speaking to Humberside! (unless Humberside nicked the interview from another local station?)

I think Long was interviewed by Radio Manchester.

He said he was very impressed with Richard Agar and that one of the reasons he was keen to sign for Hull over a few other offers was that he was being given the chance to help coach the young half backs at the club.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:13 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

I think Long was interviewed by Radio Manchester.

He said he was very impressed with Richard Agar and that one of the reasons he was keen to sign for Hull over a few other offers was that he was being given the chance to help coach the young half backs at the club.

In which case, a good move. His experience will be invaluable.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:14 pm  

FoD FC Army wrote:

Just to put your mind at rest, Raggytash is no troll and has been a season pass holder for many, many years. He has earned the right to be cynical about the decisions made by the club.

Perhaps Sean will announce how much extra cash he turned down from Wigan so that he could play for Hull/Agar. He will have made the best decision for him and his family, and would not have turned down significantly more money from Wigan.

To be fair mate, he is starting to look like a Troll (physically I mean!)

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:33 pm  

hull smallears wrote:

To be fair mate, he is starting to look like a Troll (physically I mean!)

You are now Troll enemy no.1 worldwide!

I am not unhappy with the signing of Long I am just pointing out that 90% of players that sign for any club always say they've been persuaded by the coaches vision, whoever that coach may be. All long term fans will recognize the pattern. it's like there's a manual full of generic responses to all certain situations in Rugby League. The chances of Long's signing mainly being down to Agar's vision are slim indeed. This applies to most signings in fairness.

I honestly don't mind if some teenager accuses me of being a troll, my opinions aren't validated to me by having any other posters approve them.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:59 pm  

Raggytash wrote:

You are now Troll enemy no.1 worldwide!

I am not unhappy with the signing of Long I am just pointing out that 90% of players that sign for any club always say they've been persuaded by the coaches vision, whoever that coach may be. All long term fans will recognize the pattern. it's like there's a manual full of generic responses to all certain situations in Rugby League. The chances of Long's signing mainly being down to Agar's vision are slim indeed. This applies to most signings in fairness.

I honestly don't mind if some teenager accuses me of being a troll, my opinions aren't validated to me by having any other posters approve them.

I agree with that. When any player in any sport says that I generally think 'Bullshit'. They may as well have a board that they read it all from......Wait, doesn't another club already do that?