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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:40 am  
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when you lose fans because of a lack of interest getting them back is much more difficult.
Its obvious due to financial restraints that the club are now prepared to tread water for the next couple of seasons in the hope that several of the younger players will and are able to step up and become regular S/L players.Thats a very risky strategy as it may never happen.
The only thing for me that would save a collapse in Pass sales next season and create the buzz the club needs is to go for risk and reward.
For example if we had made a bid for Croft and signed him then most of the transfer fee would have been paid by an increase in pass sales and the thought of seeing him play behind some big mobile forwards would have created that excitement the fan base is missing.
Regretfully we have to accept bringing in a star player is not going to happen but the club need to be realistic and wake up to the fact we are no longer a top club and are being left behind now by too many other S/L clubs.
Although we have strengthened on paper the forwards in weight and size,we have the weakest set of threequarters in S/L and apart from Jack Walker not one of them with any strike ability or ability to get on the end of an offload and break the line.
Without Clifford and a make do halfback partnership what Smith will have to do is get the team mega fit from day one so that we can compete with hard graft rather than just falling away due to lack of energy.


That’s pretty much an accurate assessment of how things could end up, unless we can pull a rabbit out of the hat signing , although I think we do have more pace this year . I cannot disagree about the back division, when you compare like for like , any other team has at least one genuine strike player , apart from Castleford , but we’ve got to hope Smith can do what his elder brother did and mould a team with no real stars into a good and solid unit , we had Brian Blacker, Russ Walker , Damien McGarry and other players and he laid the foundations for the famous Premiership victory over a star studded Widnes by changing the teams weaknesses into a solid and hardworking unit , behind two big props . It’s the dilemma facing many teams - how to attract or even retain current fans while cutting costs to ensure survival .
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:49 am  
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I'm a long way from a monarchist but have to say good, positive publicity for the club. Posted on social media by the offical royal accounts yesterday and featured in most of the press today. Not often you see a Hull FC shirt on the front of the Daily Telegraph.


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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:50 am  
Pre season starts early November. Expect a few more announcements over the coming weeks.

Smith and Grix need announcing. Poss a few more off field staff and the 2 mystery players
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:55 am  
Talk of Wire signing Justin Olam. They'd need a quota player to leave to accommodate him.

Whispers Saints were looking at Kasiano, he's too much of a luxury player for me. Thought Saints would want to be decreasing the overall age of their squad

If they do sign Olam, I'd wonder if Wrench will get fed up behind Tai, King and Olam. I'd take him for sure
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:32 am  
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The Dentist Wilf wrote:
Yeh I agree with that we have signed some players who will no doubt improve the team if only culture wise because they are new to the club and the playing environment and hopefully they will bring a different attitude and work ethic to the group. That's almost as valuable to Tony Smith and the FC as their ability on the pitch for me.

However as you say, you do need game breakers and in Sneyd, Connor, Griffin (to a certain extent) and Swift and Clifford we have lost such players but with the exception of Walker (who needs to keep fit) we have gained few if any so far . You need them to change games for you, but almost as importantly these days you need them to have that reputation so that their signing inspires people to buy season tickets and get on board for another season.

the majority on here are fanatics who would watch Hull Fc in Division 1 playing on West Hulls pitch but its the 'intenders' we need to inspire and there needs to be a buzz around next season as the tickets go on sale. I don't detect that at present at all, in fact for me it all seems very flat and the situation isn't helped by the great strides forwards the other lot have made this year. For some reason, That somehow has always over the years dissipated the hopes of the fringe fans over at our side of the City. Back in the early 80's it was brilliant because both clubs were at the top of the tree trying to outdo each other signing wise but that symmetry rarely occurs.

I have spoken to loads of people in my age group who have said they haven't been much this season and They 'haven't missed it at all" and that as far as the club is concerned, in that committed age group, is criminal. I'd like to think the current inertia around the hopes and aspirations of the fans is all part of a bigger plan to bring a big bang impact when we put tickets on sale but I have my doubts, simply because times are hard financially, but unless our current position is to spiral backwards we need to draw a line in the sand and start to build again and I think Smith is doing that but we need to engage and inspire future subscribers to do it and that's the hard bit in the current market place. lets hope the next signings do that!


when you lose fans because of a lack of interest getting them back is much more difficult.
Its obvious due to financial restraints that the club are now prepared to tread water for the next couple of seasons in the hope that several of the younger players will and are able to step up and become regular S/L players.Thats a very risky strategy as it may never happen.
The only thing for me that would save a collapse in Pass sales next season and create the buzz the club needs is to go for risk and reward.
For example if we had made a bid for Croft and signed him then most of the transfer fee would have been paid by an increase in pass sales and the thought of seeing him play behind some big mobile forwards would have created that excitement the fan base is missing.
Regretfully we have to accept bringing in a star player is not going to happen but the club need to be realistic and wake up to the fact we are no longer a top club and are being left behind now by too many other S/L clubs.
Although we have strengthened on paper the forwards in weight and size,we have the weakest set of threequarters in S/L and apart from Jack Walker not one of them with any strike ability or ability to get on the end of an offload and break the line.
Without Clifford and a make do halfback partnership what Smith will have to do is get the team mega fit from day one so that we can compete with hard graft rather than just falling away due to lack of energy.


I know some people will view Bonaires post as just a negative one but if we are to be honest about the points raised, whilst we may not like them there is actually a great degree of truth in his post.

There is a real apathy within the fans base and there has been for some time due to not only the poor performances but also a continuing disconnection between the club and its fans. Granted the arrival of TS brought in some renewed hope before the start of last season but once again the way we end the last quarter of a season has almost evaporated that renewed hope.

I think other than the hardcore base the club are really going to struggle to get fans renewing memberships/passes let alone attract new fans to take up memberships/passes due another bitterly disappointing season and the fact there is no real game breaking player seemingly arriving anytime soon if at all.

Yes some of the signings will improve us but we are also very weak in some areas which isn't and won't help shift passes.

No one can argue Wilf doesn't love the club and dare I say is a stalwart, even he's mentioned he's spoken to a number of fans who aren't missing not going to games which as he said is a concern, he's also been critical of the lack of communication from the club to its fan base for a while. He's also states how other clubs have moved forward too, which has left us even further behind.

Even though I'd said I wouldn't be renewing after another end of season poop show I just can't bring myself not too (whether I go to all the games is a different matter of course) but the club can't just simply rely or hope on fans continuing with blind loyalty.

We as fans understand the club is in a difficult time, its clear more than anything the club needs its fans but it has to start re engaging with them and quickly. The club used to be very good on the media/marketing/communication side of things with the fans but its almost none existent nowadays and at times its feels like the club sees it as a hassle or burden to engage with its fans.

Still hope for better to come but as they say its the hope that kills you.
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:23 am  
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2 signings to be announced this week.

1 that we know of, 1 that we don't



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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:31 am  
Trouble with Bonaire he's negative all the time. Of course with us doing crap ATM he's having a field day. If and it's a big if we start doing well he will disappear like he normally does. Noticed on the threads about Taylor and Shaul not a dickiebird from him. Never seems to go to matches yet takes the p.iss out of people that do. Just my opinion of course. :BOW:
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:36 am  
pattern this week as been signing announcement every other day.if they keep to that there should be another signing today.hope so.preferably a nrl 7.
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:55 am  
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Was told 2 announcements, and 1 was due to be someone not named in the press yet. Maybe the Ashworth one was moved forward instead as the other isn't complete yet, or change of mind from club or player
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:02 am  
I don't think we'll announce anyone else this week. Sky game on tonight so would probably get reduced exposure
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