Re: Satae to Catalans after the derby : Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:09 am  

Think a lot of people forget Carlos has been out for months and months with injury, had no real pre season and has had to come into a side that is woeful. He's never going to come in and set the world alight.

Of course he's never going to be in the same class of all of rovers world beaters, world beating reserves, women's team, netball team, burger van team or 5 a side fans teams. The rest of SL could only hope to emulate that.

Re: Satae to Catalans after the derby : Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:18 am  

Yippee try yay wrote:

Think a lot of people forget Carlos has been out for months and months with injury, had no real pre season and has had to come into a side that is woeful. He's never going to come in and set the world alight.

Of course he's never going to be in the same class of all of rovers world beaters, world beating reserves, women's team, netball team, burger van team or 5 a side fans teams. The rest of SL could only hope to emulate that.

Continuing your sarcasm he might get in the women’s team if they have a few injuries

Re: Satae to Catalans after the derby : Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:27 am  

Keiththered wrote:

Against Wire he was woeful. If you go on present not past performance he is not SL standard. Opicic is not the flashy centre who catches the eye. His defence is excellent and has helped stop the leaks down the right. He is still settling in but has started to score tries and provide assists. I suspect what you have seen of Opicic is his first match against Wigan on tv and edited highlights. Not really a good way to assess a player. A player who only missed a grand final in the NRL because of injury is no average SL player. You are very welcome to Carlos on present form and I emphasise the word present he wouldn’t get in our reserves should they actually get to play a match.

He was a massive help stopping Charnley score a hatrick down the right hand side. Particularly when he shot out of the line with seconds left on the clock leaving Leigh a overlap and a nice run to the corner for Charnely to score a match winner.
It's interesting to know I can't form an opinion of him based on on what I've seen so far, and yet you are able to confirm Carlos isn't a Super League standard player based off 1 game you've seem him play this season.

I'm not sure why you said "provide assists", as in plural. He only has 1 assist to his name. The same number as Carlos, by the the way, who played a lot less games.

Hes missed 15% of his tackles. That isn't excellent defence. Its okay defence. Which is what I internally described him as.

So we can on present form if you'd like, because Opicic's is pretty average.

For the record I did say I could be proved wrong and its only what I've seen so far. He could turn into the signing of the year. Likewise Carlos will improve as he gets back to full fitness.

Re: Satae to Catalans after the derby : Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:40 am  

Keiththered wrote:

Continuing your sarcasm he might get in the women’s team if they have a few injuries

The first part wasn't sarcasm, your bagging Carlos saying he wouldn't get into your reserves side (even though you've not played a reserve game yet, not sure how that works?) But he's just returned from a career threatening injury, had next to no pre season, the team he's come into are in dreadful form and he's having to get used to new plays and structures. But your NRL grand final superstar is immune from criticism.

Re: Satae to Catalans after the derby : Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:59 am  

Opacic is a good defensive centre, in the NRL he was picked for Paramatta, based on that. His attacking play is steady, at best. Would we take him? Probably, but in the same team as Carlos is now, he'd look just as lost, especially having no preseason to speak of and no adequate back rower assisting him..

Re: Satae to Catalans after the derby : Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:14 am  

Whitbread named in Wakeys squad

Re: Satae to Catalans after the derby : Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:21 am  

You wouldn't of thought Wakey would be releasing one of your better squad players before a relegation 4 pointer.

Re: Satae to Catalans after the derby : Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:29 pm  

Keiththered wrote:

In all the years I have supported Rovers this is the first time I can say there is not one of FC’s squad that would improve us.

I can't believe I'm saying this but as much as I don't think KR are as good as they think, I agree with Keith not many of ours would get in KR side at the moment.

Re: Satae to Catalans after the derby : Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:45 pm  

Ellam wrote:

I can't believe I'm saying this but as much as I don't think KR are as good as they think, I agree with Keith not many of ours would get in KR side at the moment.

Yeah I'd agree but based on what they can do, Satae, Sao, Carlos, Sevellio, Clifford , Truman, Sutcliffe would get into most 17's in SL, not just Rovers' GF and WCC champions elect squad. It is a measure of how fragile our confidence is that we are even scared of them, that is only an average team we face on Friday, but lets hope we turn up and shut them up, because, for all their hype and Paul Cooke's HDM comments, that would be humiliating for them if we do.

Re: Satae to Catalans after the derby : Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:48 pm  

Ellam wrote:

I can't believe I'm saying this but as much as I don't think KR are as good as they think, I agree with Keith not many of ours would get in KR side at the moment.

Of course not. The form we're in, not many of our players would get in any team barring Wakey and maybe Cas.