Re: More rumours... : Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:09 am  

dayvoz wrote:

i think you might be in for a pleasant surprise

Aye, take a look at the best of Ellis clips online. Awesome player in attack and defence. More than good enough to replace Manu.

Re: More rumours... : Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:46 am  

BIGARR wrote:

Aye, take a look at the best of Ellis clips online. Awesome player in attack and defence. More than good enough to replace Manu.

Rather than a highlights package, I have watched every single game Ellis has played for Wests this season. There is nothing "awesome" about his attack, and he is nowhere near the player Manu is with ball in hand. I like Ellis, and think he's a great signing, but most of you are heavily deluded as Hull fans are with most players we sign. He is a workhorse who will top the tackle count. We are losing 2 impact forwards, and haven't replaced either yet in my opinion.

Re: More rumours... : Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:49 am  

Raggytash wrote:

Rather than a highlights package, I have watched every single game Ellis has played for Wests this season. There is nothing "awesome" about his attack, and he is nowhere near the player Manu is with ball in hand. I like Ellis, and think he's a great signing, but most of you are heavily deluded as Hull fans are with most players we sign. He is a workhorse who will top the tackle count. We are losing 2 impact forwards, and haven't replaced either yet in my opinion.

Spot on

Having watched gareth in his early career that is exactly was Gaz is a top grafter no bells and whistles but a leader none the less.

Re: More rumours... : Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:18 am  

Can someone explain to me what is meant by 'having impact' or being an 'impact forward' (preferably without using the word 'impact' in the explanation)?

Many thanks.

Re: More rumours... : Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:20 am  

So Ellis is just a grafter and nothing more? I guess you've missed the great angles he runs at speed, top offloads and brilliant step he has? Not to mention his leg drive power after the tackle attempt has been made?

Re: More rumours... : Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:35 am  

If you think Ellis is just a grafter then you're deluded. He's top class.

Re: More rumours... : Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:50 am  

A unknown superstar wrote:

So Ellis is just a grafter and nothing more? I guess you've missed the great angles he runs at speed, top offloads and brilliant step he has? Not to mention his leg drive power after the tackle attempt has been made?

Agree. Utter tripe he's just a grafter! You don't win player off the year awards yrs running for that! Ellis was out a period this year but when come back was in a under performing injury hit team, so this yr wasn't a good measure! Up against Manu I give him every most areas. Better off load better angle running creating space for the team not just strength to bust the tackle and rely on support., play of the ball be 5seconds better in most cases, Manu good to watch but after fighting with defenders for ages rest of defence set . Our hookers will love playing off him. Defence wise Ellis has to be constantly as in nearly every tackle one of the hardest hitters in world. Gentle when we got him said if was Australian he'd be in first few names down in oz team and origin teams! Wanted Manu but wasn't massively concerned! Would have liked Manu as well but say we're up having Ellis not down!

Re: More rumours... : Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:00 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

taylor going to wigan, amor staying at wakey or going to saints. Seems we haven't had much luck with our prop recruitment. Johnson looks OK but doesn't look like he'll ever be top class to me

With Chris Tuson going in the opposite direction

Re: More rumours... : Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:03 am  

One of the differences between Manu an Ellis is we often just 'give the ball' to Manu and expect him to do his magic. He hardly ever receives the ball at pace and at the line, not often. Were as Ellis will hit the ball with pace and power at the line. Ellis is a line breaker, Manu not so much (well he is but in his own way, after throwing players off him).
Calling fans delluded for thinking Ellis is nothing more than a grafter is laughable and ironic.

Re: More rumours... : Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:06 am  

Gerrum on side ref wrote:

With Chris Tuson going in the opposite direction

I don't think rovers will be as bad as many expect next season. The players they've lost haven't played that many games or haven't been in great form this year so any additions are likely to improve them.

Unfortunately