Re: AP’s Ideas on the game going forward : Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:41 am  

Yesterday proved we have a great product to sell , We just need the right people to sell it the right way .

[Chris71]

Re: AP’s Ideas on the game going forward : Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:07 pm  

B0NES wrote:

Yesterday proved we have a great product to sell , We just need the right people to sell it the right way .

There in lies the problem as the ones currently running the game seem to think it’s more to do with changing the product to attract people rather than having people in control that know what marketing actually is, know how to do it and do it successfully.

All they have to do is get off their backsides and actually put a proper shift in and do their jobs instead of just hoping the core fans will just keep turning up and doing their job of bringing new fans to the game for them. Too many involved particularly within the RFL are stealing a salary and have no real experience of qualifications to do what is required.

Until that is addressed the game with continues to flounder and lose ground and credibility.

Re: AP’s Ideas on the game going forward : Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:26 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

There in lies the problem as the ones currently running the game seem to think it’s more to do with changing the product to attract people rather than having people in control that know what marketing actually is, know how to do it and do it successfully.

All they have to do is get off their backsides and actually put a proper shift in and do their jobs instead of just hoping the core fans will just keep turning up and doing their job of bringing new fans to the game for them. Too many involved particularly within the RFL are stealing a salary and have no real experience of qualifications to do what is required.

Until that is addressed the game with continues to flounder and lose ground and credibility.

The product has always been good even now when things like milking penalties and taking away added things like shoulder charges and fights it all added to it

A scrap is good it gets the crowd going and shows the players care

The rfl and clubs are both to blame, the clubs agreed to things like salary cap remaining so low due to a lack of ambition which is the biggest problem

RL has gone backwards whilst other sports have got bigger

Getting rid of Toronto was a terrible move they had 8,000 fans from scratch, even we didn't get 8,000 in Division 1

Re: AP’s Ideas on the game going forward : Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:02 pm  

Thetalentboy wrote:

The product has always been good even now when things like milking penalties and taking away added things like shoulder charges and fights it all added to it

A scrap is good it gets the crowd going and shows the players care

The rfl and clubs are both to blame, the clubs agreed to things like salary cap remaining so low due to a lack of ambition which is the biggest problem

RL has gone backwards whilst other sports have got bigger

Getting rid of Toronto was a terrible move they had 8,000 fans from scratch, even we didn't get 8,000 in Division 1

A scrap shows thugs at work.

Salary cap low not because of lack of ambition but because of lack of the readies.

Toronto were a busted flush and still have not paid the players their outstanding wages.

Re: AP’s Ideas on the game going forward : Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:22 pm  

Keiththered wrote:

A scrap shows thugs at work.

Salary cap low not because of lack of ambition but because of lack of the readies.

Toronto were a busted flush and still have not paid the players their outstanding wages.

Toronto didn't receive any TV money whilst Catalan do

Not a single team could manage long without TV money look at the outcry from getting reduced sky payments now

A reduced sum is still alot more than nothing

Toronto didn't get a penny huge difference and they brought alot more than Leigh and other clubs ( Salford, Huddersfield, London ) who bring nothing to the pot

Re: AP’s Ideas on the game going forward : Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:45 pm  

Thetalentboy wrote:

Toronto didn't receive any TV money whilst Catalan do

Not a single team could manage long without TV money look at the outcry from getting reduced sky payments now

A reduced sum is still alot more than nothing

Toronto didn't get a penny huge difference and they brought alot more than Leigh and other clubs ( Salford, Huddersfield, London ) who bring nothing to the pot

They knew the conditions before they started.

What did they bring? No away support. Getting 8000 home gates, including a lot of freebies does not benefit the game in any way. Playing matches on another continent with border restrictions, travel issues, time difference and having to have an imbalance in the home and away fixtures was the plan of people living in cloud cuckoo land.

Expansion can work as Catalan have proved. If this is to be developed then Europe is the way to go. Different continents need a different approach if they are to have a sustainable future and the people involved with the new clubs need to fulfill their obligations and not proceed with pie in the sky ideas.

Re: AP’s Ideas on the game going forward : Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:48 pm  

B0NES wrote:

Yesterday proved we have a great product to sell , We just need the right people to sell it the right way .

I agree 100 percent.

Re: AP’s Ideas on the game going forward : Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:49 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

There in lies the problem as the ones currently running the game seem to think it’s more to do with changing the product to attract people rather than having people in control that know what marketing actually is, know how to do it and do it successfully.

All they have to do is get off their backsides and actually put a proper shift in and do their jobs instead of just hoping the core fans will just keep turning up and doing their job of bringing new fans to the game for them. Too many involved particularly within the RFL are stealing a salary and have no real experience of qualifications to do what is required.

Until that is addressed the game with continues to flounder and lose ground and credibility.

Hear! hear! well said and so true.

Re: AP’s Ideas on the game going forward : Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:01 pm  

Cant see how Super League rejoining or becoming part of the RFL will make any difference. The RFL are half the problem

Best thing that could happen to Super League is for the NRL to buy it even it then becomes a feeder league (and would that be a bad thing anyway) - then the NRL can negotiate with Sky/Fox (same thing) a deal that will encompass the whole thing and give more money to Super League clubs - make it 16 clubs like the NRL too then shut up shop

Re: AP’s Ideas on the game going forward : Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:27 am  

Koucash saying he wants to return to RL, but seems he is planning to team up with Beaumont at Leigh