The above is correct in that we have offered him a deal. Unfortunately his reply was "Thanks for the offer, Ill think about it "

Whilst we have other problems at the club in no way shape or form would Orford be a waste, he is a magnificent SH and exactly what we need.

Correct. Hope he signs.

A world class coach is exactly what we need. Orford would make a difference but with our style of play it wouldn't be the difference most seem to think

We all know we have badly missed a SH to control the game, it would be a major step forward to get one finally, if we do get one.

Still issues with coaches and tactics but having top players would help.

We have average forwards who amble into the tackle, get consistently beaten by bigger, faster packs. Orford wouldn't change that. We have no movement off the ball causing confusion, no players running decent lines against the defence. Orford wouldn't change that. These things should be drilled into the players during the week so it's 2nd nature come match day.

exactly, some people don't realize that agar is limited with the quality he's got, if he had a decent SH his tactics would be executed better.
When people moan about thormans bad kicking and poor decision making means the plays are good, just not executed with enough quality. That is not specifically agar's fault.
Out of all agar's recruitment think thorman is the only mistake made. Just that it's 10 times worse due to the position in the team.

I would not disagree with any of that and it's down to poor coaching and also down to lazy players. Orford would demand an improvement and would help with our attacking plays.

Anyway like I said I will believe it when it's announced.

our forwards did well last night making a lot of metres against the supposed best defence in the league. A quality scrum half directs his runners around the park and helps on the training field with set plays. If you think he wouldn't change that you're wrong.

So he'll be taking over coaching duties as well? Berrigan is world class, one of the top 2 or 3 players in SL but he's made feck all difference because of the way we play

I don't entirely agree with that personally. We have enough size in the back row, definitely. Thr front row lacks a little bit of size, but with Lauaki to hopefully come in, the possibility of Moa improving, we're only really only missing one big prop IMO. There's also Maloney to remember. He's only been full tiem for less than a year, so we may yet see him continue to get bigger. Per the SL website, Morley, Peacock, Guisset and Fa'asavalu all weigh in at less than Dowes, Cusack and King, but all have considerably more impact. The problem isn't simply our lack of size, it's the poor way we utilise it, ie not running hard enough or showing enough aggression.

I also think that of the other points, all but the ordinary players issue are easily improved by a good close season with a decent coach. This is actually what frustrates me so much, we have a lot of problems which are very obvious to identify and should be fairly simple to put right. It baffles me why we fail/refuse to do so.