Re: More rumours... : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:51 am  

east hull FC fan wrote:

Do we want a player who only performs when it's last chance saloon?

Simple answer, just keep giving him 1 year contracts!!

Re: More rumours... : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:56 am  

Raggytash wrote:

Every season for the last four seasons, Wilkes has made more appearances, meters and tackle busts than Bailey, playing in a much inferior side. What makes you think this pattern would suddenly change if he signed for us? I wish we had a genius like you in charge of recruitment!

Oh and I checked these stats, Wilkes averages 1 more metre per carry than Bailey and they make roughly the same tackle busts per game.
But did you even check the errors and missed tackles stat? Every season Wilkes makes double the amount of errors and misses twice as many tackles.
At least check ALL your stats before you try to parade them triumphantly.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:34 am  

east hull FC fan wrote:

Oh and I checked these stats, Wilkes averages 1 more metre per carry than Bailey and they make roughly the same tackle busts per game.
But did you even check the errors and missed tackles stat? Every season Wilkes makes double the amount of errors and misses twice as many tackles.
At least check ALL your stats before you try to parade them triumphantly.

Wilkes made double the amount of errors because he played double the amount of games, you cretin! On your prior post you dismiss stats as meaningless, and on your very next one it is your cast iron evidence! 10 out of 10 for consistency! The very fact that Wilkes plays almost every game, compared to the fact that Bailey barely manages 50% show the value of each. I don't even particularly rate Wilkes, but see his value to any side much higher than Baileys.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:35 am  

Raggytash wrote:

Wilkes made double the amount of errors because he played double the amount of games, you cretin! On your prior post you dismiss stats as meaningless, and on your very next one it is your cast iron evidence! 10 out of 10 for consistency! The very fact that Wilkes plays almost every game, compared to the fact that Bailey barely manages 50% show the value of each. I don't even particularly rate Wilkes, but see his value to any side much higher than Baileys.

Bailey does not play every game as he is in a much better squad. If I had to choose i'd go for Bailey tbh.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:36 am  

PAUL M wrote:

Bailey does not play every game as he is in a much better squad. If I had to choose i'd go for Bailey tbh.

Check the archives Paul, almost every large period of time he's missed is due to injury.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:45 am  

Raggytash wrote:

Wilkes made double the amount of errors because he played double the amount of games, you cretin! On your prior post you dismiss stats as meaningless, and on your very next one it is your cast iron evidence! 10 out of 10 for consistency! The very fact that Wilkes plays almost every game, compared to the fact that Bailey barely manages 50% show the value of each. I don't even particularly rate Wilkes, but see his value to any side much higher than Baileys.

Twice as many games eh? Like the season Wilkes played 27 and Bailey played 22 yet Wilkes still made twice the errors and missed twice as many tackles. Or maybe the season Wilkes made 26 appearances to Baileys 20 yet made more than twice the errors and missed almost 3 times as many tackles. Cretin indeed.
Yet again stats you put to back your argument have the opposite effect. I'd give up if I was you.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:46 am  

IMO, neither of them are even close to what we need. I really hope that there are a couple of forwards out there who are just dying to join Agar's revolution because our pack will look very thin without them.

A couple of quality forwards for next season could really be the difference between competing towards the top of SL or yet another season of mediocrity.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:49 am  

Are any of our academy forwards really ready for SL? I don't know enough about Crooks, Aldous, Kent etc.. to have any opinion but I would imagine that they're still a little young to be relied on for a season of SL.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:52 am  

east hull FC fan wrote:

So, no mention of their roles within there respected sides? Didn't think so.
Stats prove nothing, as your ramblings about Whiting showed.

Have you got some kind of duel personality disorder?

Why not compare one of the other 3 seasons out of the last 4, to truly back up your argument. We both know why you've not done this.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:53 am  

Raggytash wrote:

Check the archives Paul, almost every large period of time he's missed is due to injury.

I know. I have seen a lot of Leeds in recent years as my wife is a Rhino and I was going with her a lot when Hull wasn't playing. I have seen a real mixture from him but when he gets it right he is a real handful.

I'd prefer someone better than both of them and if not then maybe we go with Ogre, Moa, Radford and Dowes with the youngsters providing the 5th prop.

If that's the case we will need to split Moa and Ogre to ensure we don't have Radford/Dowes on at the same time imo.