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Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:43 am  
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Since when, get a grip.

Shaul and Houghton are well worth new contracts, imho. :)

Being out of contract is a different matter, easy targets to save money.


He plays a big part in it, he does the negotiating.

As I said which other SL club would Shaul get into, he isnt a top FB snd it's such a pivotal position. If we keep renewing these type of players we wont progress.
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Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:58 am  
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He plays a big part in it, he does the negotiating..

... a bit different from "in charge of recruitment."

Rugby is usually a simple game, when forwards dominate, the halfbacks dictate play and the backs play to their strengths.

Unfortunately, Connor isn't a halfback, and Carlos isn't one either, particularly when paired up with Jake.
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Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:04 am  
Carlos is better at half back than Connor is. I thought Connor would end up in the NRL, but not anymore.

Still think a lot of our players would look far better in other teams that are well coached, with good systems in place.
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Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:26 am  
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Carlos is better at half back than Connor is. I thought Connor would end up in the NRL, but not anymore.

Still think a lot of our players would look far better in other teams that are well coached, with good systems in place.


Any player good, bad or indifferent would look better in a team that is well coached, with good systems in place. A good player will also perform well in a team that is not well coached, they are then identified or become disillusioned and move on to better teams. A few like Taylor will sacrifice a career at the top to play for their boyhood team.
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Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:53 am  
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... a bit different from "in charge of recruitment."

Rugby is usually a simple game, when forwards dominate, the halfbacks dictate play and the backs play to their strengths.

Unfortunately, Connor isn't a halfback, and Carlos isn't one either, particularly when paired up with Jake.


I much prefer Carlos in the centres (I'd rate him as our best centre in the Super League era) but he can do a good job at stand off. In 2016 he took over the position when Leon Pryce was injured and we had a good winning record with him and Sneyd as a half back partnership including the quarters, semi and final in the winning Cup run.
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Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:59 am  
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I much prefer Carlos in the centres (I'd rate him as our best centre in the Super League era) but he can do a good job at stand off. In 2016 he took over the position when Leon Pryce was injured and we had a good winning record with him and Sneyd as a half back partnership including the quarters, semi and final in the winning Cup run.


I agree, he's a much better centre.

He was outstanding against Cas, but a different player altogether when we came up against Wigan a few days later.
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Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:14 pm  
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I much prefer Carlos in the centres (I'd rate him as our best centre in the Super League era) but he can do a good job at stand off. In 2016 he took over the position when Leon Pryce was injured and we had a good winning record with him and Sneyd as a half back partnership including the quarters, semi and final in the winning Cup run.



Think that was more to with the pack and backs getting us on the front foot, put Connor at 6 in that 2016 team,you would see a different player.
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Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:18 pm  
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... a bit different from "in charge of recruitment."

Rugby is usually a simple game, when forwards dominate, the halfbacks dictate play and the backs play to their strengths.

Unfortunately, Connor isn't a halfback, and Carlos isn't one either, particularly when paired up with Jake.


Ypu knew what I meant, we have no one above coaching level with Rugby experience to make big decisions on recruitment and retention.

Still no one has answered my question about Shaul, which other SL teams would he ft into, he simply isnt good enough. He rarely make the right decision with ball in hand, poor under the high ball and defence.
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Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:19 am  
Mrs Barista wrote:
https://wrl.wales/wales-u16-international-signs-for-hull-fc


Nice one . Just shows we’re looking all over for players,
Noticed the email address mentions mark jones. I presume that’s just because it’s a common welsh name, and it’s not our former player?
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