Re: Gleeson : Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:46 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Isn't depression treatable by medication? I always thought it was some kind of chemical imbalance in the brain. Presumably he's on his meds and we have some kind of timeline for his return to training (Doubt it will be this season).

Excercise is one of the best things, maybe we should think of someway we could get him to do things like that. I would say the worst thing to do is let he be sat at home , away from his peers

Re: Gleeson : Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:55 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Isn't depression treatable by medication? I always thought it was some kind of chemical imbalance in the brain. Presumably he's on his meds and we have some kind of timeline for his return to training (Doubt it will be this season).

Whilst I have sympathy for his illness, I believe the club need some definitive action on the situation either way before pre season training starts or we#ll have another situation like the berrigan one.

I'm surprised that a player with only half a dozen appearances for the club is being treated by some as a kind of untouchable due to mental illness, whilst a man who is, no doubt, under massive pressure and has given 7 years of his life is villified every day on here

No you are thinking about conditions like Bi-polar which a person suffers all their lives and need medication to control the condition. It is likely he is suffering from unipolar, a condition which can affect most people who get a one off episode due to stresses eg, divorce, death etc. Although medication can help with unipolar they are generally only used in shorterm.

Re: Gleeson : Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:58 am  

Some stuff is sailing close to the wind, people......

Think before you post please

Re: Gleeson : Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:09 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Isn't depression treatable by medication? I always thought it was some kind of chemical imbalance in the brain. Presumably he's on his meds and we have some kind of timeline for his return to training (Doubt it will be this season).

Whilst I have sympathy for his illness, I believe the club need some definitive action on the situation either way before pre season training starts or we#ll have another situation like the berrigan one.

I'm surprised that a player with only half a dozen appearances for the club is being treated by some as a kind of untouchable due to mental illness, whilst a man who is, no doubt, under massive pressure and has given 7 years of his life is villified every day on here

Depression can be managed by medication but rarely cured. It tends to be used to nullify the symptoms without actually addressing the cause. It’s useful for getting people through crisis, but it will not cure depression and it’s certainly not a silver bullet. A friend of mine had depression to the point of suicidal thoughts, he received medication, but he vehemently suggests that Counselling, therapy and exercise where the three things that pulled him through – not the medication that he spent two years addicted to. I suppose it’s entirely subjective, we’re all unique and deal with and respond to things differently.

Re: Gleeson : Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:14 am  

Phil O'Stein wrote:

Depression can be managed by medication but rarely cured. It tends to be used to nullify the symptoms without actually addressing the cause. It’s useful for getting people through crisis, but it will not cure depression and it’s certainly not a silver bullet. A friend of mine had depression to the point of suicidal thoughts, he received medication, but he vehemently suggests that Counselling, therapy and exercise where the three things that pulled him through – not the medication that he spent two years addicted to. I suppose it’s entirely subjective, we’re all unique and deal with and respond to things differently.

Without going into detail, personal experience would agree with the post above, and I would hope that Gleeson has now had a good 4 or 5 months of counselling support and should, realistically, be coming through the other side of his problems, unless he is exacerbating them somehow. People are very rarely "cured", but you develop coping mechanisms and learn to identify and exentuate the other positive elements of life.

It's frustrating because he is a great player and we knew the potential problems when we signed him.

Re: Gleeson : Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:16 am  

He was at the darts in Blackpool a couple of weeks ago......same day we went out of the cup

Re: Gleeson : Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:29 am  

Marfa Manu wrote:

No you are thinking about conditions like Bi-polar which a person suffers all their lives and need medication to control the condition. It is likely he is suffering from unipolar, a condition which can affect most people who get a one off episode due to stresses eg, divorce, death etc. Although medication can help with unipolar they are generally only used in shorterm.

So someone with depression won't be on any prescribed medication?

Re: Gleeson : Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:48 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

So someone with depression won't be on any prescribed medication?

not necessarily, they can cause more problems than they solve.

Re: Gleeson : Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:55 am  

sparkeyfc wrote:

He was at the darts in Blackpool a couple of weeks ago......same day we went out of the cup

Are you stalking him?

Re: Gleeson : Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:10 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

So someone with depression won't be on any prescribed medication?

Yes they maybe but it will only be a short term solution if it is a unipolar episode, normally other methods are tried first unless the individual is having suicidal thoughts then the GP will prescribe straight away.