Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:32 pm  

Need to get Charles signed up to a long deal now, even a moderate bump up in pay will do it. Still likely need an overseas no7 in the interim but we rarely produce a half back and need to avoid the risk of him going.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:43 pm  

He should keep his spot until at least Walker is back and we can move Hoy. Brown should stay at hooker. Charles has nothing on him atm so doesn’t need overplaying but you can just tell he’s a natural half. The kick through for the McIntosh bombed try was just instinct.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:45 pm  

FC Callum wrote:

He should keep his spot until at least Walker is back and we can move Hoy. Brown should stay at hooker. Charles has nothing on him atm so doesn’t need overplaying but you can just tell he’s a natural half. The kick through for the McIntosh bombed try was just instinct.

Agree, you can't coach that you either have it or you dont

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:43 am  

Just a thought on Jack Charles but I wonder who he supports?
With his dad been a former HKR player I do wonder if he'd like to follow his dads footsteps and as soon (if) an opportunity came up he'd jump ship to Rovers.
Doesn't help us that they're also the more attractive club at present. Just think if he went there he wouldn't get any game time like most of their youngsters.
We could do with getting him tied down pretty soon.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:55 am  

Hasbag wrote:

Just a thought on Jack Charles but I wonder who he supports?
With his dad been a former HKR player I do wonder if he'd like to follow his dads footsteps and as soon (if) an opportunity came up he'd jump ship to Rovers.
Doesn't help us that they're also the more attractive club at present. Just think if he went there he wouldn't get any game time like most of their youngsters.
We could do with getting him tied down pretty soon.

Jacks a Hull fan.

I'm pretty sure he is tied down to a long term deal, not surprisingly though the club haven't announced it, just the way they like to do things, keep the fans in the dark.

One positive I think we have over Rovers is giving young players a chance, one upside to being rubbish.

Rovers don't have a great record of bringing their own players through, as example signing Reynolds.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:08 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Jacks a Hull fan.

I'm pretty sure he is tied down to a long term deal, not surprisingly though the club haven't announced it, just the way they like to do things, keep the fans in the dark.

One positive I think we have over Rovers is giving young players a chance, one upside to being rubbish.

Rovers don't have a great record of bringing their own players through, as example signing Reynolds.

Okay great stuff, thanks for the info!
My worry is that we could potentially finally bring through a good half back and it turns out hes a Rovers fan all along and wants to go there.
I know there's more to signing a contract than just who you support (Mikey Lewis is an example), but if you're a Rovers fan and they have money to burn, and they're a better team than us, then yeah it would he hard to compete with that.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:54 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Jacks a Hull fan.

I'm pretty sure he is tied down to a long term deal, not surprisingly though the club haven't announced it, just the way they like to do things, keep the fans in the dark.

One positive I think we have over Rovers is giving young players a chance, one upside to being rubbish.

Rovers don't have a great record of bringing their own players through, as example signing Reynolds.

Your giving these youngsters a chance this season because you have little choice Dave, your owners doing things on the cheap as you all know, squad wise you may have gone big but there isnt many first team 'men' in there is their? You was always going to be forced into playing the kids as soon as injuries struck.
I'll definitely acknowledge though that at Rovers we don't have great record with bringing the youth through, we have a few promising young lads at the minute but yes id like to see more coming through.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:05 am  

bishops finger wrote:

Your giving these youngsters a chance this season because you have little choice Dave, your owners doing things on the cheap as you all know, squad wise you may have gone big but there isnt many first team 'men' in there is their? You was always going to be forced into playing the kids as soon as injuries struck.
I'll definitely acknowledge though that at Rovers we don't have great record with bringing the youth through, we have a few promising young lads at the minute but yes id like to see more coming through.

Neither do we. Prior to this year when, like you said we've had to, I can only see Houghton, Lane and Fash that would be deemed as first team regulars that have come through the academy AFAIK. Jack Brown is getting there and Litten every now and again but not a great turn over.

If the youth is the direction we're going and targeting this batch coming through as being the core of the squad in 5 years time then fair enough, I'd 100% get behind that. All we want is some honesty about that.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:09 am  

bishops finger wrote:

Your giving these youngsters a chance this season because you have little choice Dave, your owners doing things on the cheap as you all know, squad wise you may have gone big but there isnt many first team 'men' in there is their? You was always going to be forced into playing the kids as soon as injuries struck.
I'll definitely acknowledge though that at Rovers we don't have great record with bringing the youth through, we have a few promising young lads at the minute but yes id like to see more coming through.

Every team has little choice but to bring academy players through. It's the way forward. There are so many financial benefits to bringing through your own players. They offer dispersions to the salary cap. They free up quota and marquee player spots. They want to play for the club they've grown up supporting so their contracts are easier to negotiate.
I don't want to derail to thread too much, but Rovers are currently following the Warrington model of a few years ago and just buying a team. Abdull left, and that is the perfect time to see what Ellis could have done, and that would only have been for the odd game when injuries/suspensions hit. Instead they went out and bought Reynolds who is a garbage player and probably no better than what Ellis could do.
Finances might have forced our hand the last couple of years into playing some more academy players, but 100% in the long run it will help alleviate financial pressure on the club.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:27 am  

Wakey allegedly interested in Jack Brown and Lane.