: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:18 pm  

In EnemyTerritory wrote:

The difference my dear friend is that in doing what you did when you did it.. you simply looked like sore losers. At that time there was little other than a sickly feeling in the stomach to suggest that Celtic were worthy winners once some of the media and the RFL bandwagon had finished. We all knew it was baloney but we didn't have the proof.

Now however the vapour thin promises and assurances given by the Crusaders are evaporating around them and everyone can see what the real situation looks like. I'm glad that we took the stance that we did. I think we will profit from it and I expect the club to remain dignified over this.

You probably will profit but that still does not help all the other clubs and that is whats wrong with the so called RL family, it mirrors todays society of "I'm allright Jack".

Widnes think a Franchise is in the bag and I don't have any problem with this but if publically stating what was obviously a disgrace is going to effect your chances of reaching the promised land, well I don't care if we ever get there, and I'm being serious.

: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:51 pm  

Twitch wrote:

You probably will profit but that still does not help all the other clubs and that is whats wrong with the so called RL family, it mirrors todays society of "I'm allright Jack".

Widnes think a Franchise is in the bag and I don't have any problem with this but if publically stating what was obviously a disgrace is going to effect your chances of reaching the promised land, well I don't care if we ever get there, and I'm being serious.

We've played that card too many times and too many times it has come up the joker and we have lost out... time and time again we have tried to take on the RFL, (quite often on our own) and now the club are taking a different approach which seems to be gaining us some ground.
The RFL family is dead unfortunately and the game is now split into the haves and the have nots... I want (and the people that run this club want), the team to be in SL and flourish.

I like it in the championship and wouldn't be too disheartened to stay but I think things will get worse from 2011 onwards and we will become nothing more than a bunch of feeder clubs. There is little in the way of an alternative. This club has terrific potential and I want my club to achieve this.

: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:04 pm  

In EnemyTerritory wrote:

We've played that card too many times and too many times it has come up the joker and we have lost out... time and time again we have tried to take on the RFL, (quite often on our own) and now the club are taking a different approach which seems to be gaining us some ground.
The RFL family is dead unfortunately and the game is now split into the haves and the have nots... I want (and the people that run this club want), the team to be in SL and flourish.

I like it in the championship and wouldn't be too disheartened to stay but I think things will get worse from 2011 onwards and we will become nothing more than a bunch of feeder clubs. There is little in the way of an alternative. This club has terrific potential and I want my club to achieve this.

never have truer words been spoken. The day this happens is the day I turn my back of RL for good. The future beyond then is bleak, 2011 is breaking point, we have to achieve SL status.

: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:17 pm  

Bertie Magoo's PA wrote:

never have truer words been spoken. The day this happens is the day I turn my back of RL for good. The future beyond then is bleak, 2011 is breaking point, we have to achieve SL status.

Absolutely agree..
RL has in many ways benefited to varying degrees from having such 'hands on' administrators.. Video Referees, Summer Rugby, Salary Cap, etc etc. but I honestly think that the plan from here-in is just unsustainable and not been thoroughly thought out.

Pat Price summed it up beautifully on announcement day when she said.
'the leaves of expansion are green... but the roots are dying!!!'

: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:44 pm  

In EnemyTerritory wrote:

Absolutely agree..
RL has in many ways benefited to varying degrees from having such 'hands on' administrators.. Video Referees, Summer Rugby, Salary Cap, etc etc. but I honestly think that the plan from here-in is just unsustainable and not been thoroughly thought out.

Pat Price summed it up beautifully on announcement day when she said.
'the leaves of expansion are green... but the roots are dying!!!'

Why does that not suprise me? She is like the third grandma to every Widnes fan below 50. What a woman. although you are hearing it now, hands off.