J20 wrote:
Why have you used my OTT remark for points where I simply haven't used it?
The only point I said was OTT was predicting we'll be gone by 2015 based on our first 14 games.
So that is the only area of which you regard my post as OTT and hysterical?
It seemed to me that you found the general tenet of my point of view to be hysterical. That is why I used it elsewhere. If I was wrong, then I apologise.
Like I said, many in the RL media are saying just that, so maybe not that OTT?
J20 wrote:
P.s. 14th 13th & 12th from last 3 franchise years.
2009 - Cru - Salford - Hull FC
2010 - Catalan - Quins - Salford
2011 - Cru - Wakey - Quins
2012 - Widnes - Quins - Wakey (as it stands)
J20 wrote:
By many 12 / 10 team supporters Catalan would have been well gone yet within 2 years are one of the top sides? Hull FC & Cru both made plsyoffs too.
Do you think that Les Catalan were going to be dropped? Do you think that the same patience would be shown, by the RFL towards Widnes? Do we have the same Aussie quota as they had to build a side? Did they get the recruitment of coaches so disastrously wrong? Do they hang on to their coach, when he proves himself to be incapable of actually coaching? Do they limit themselves to only unproven, young English coaches?
Would Hull FC and Crusaders have improved quite so dramatically under Betts? Do you actually think that?
All of the teams you mention would know, full well, that they are bullet proof, no matter what, in the licence system. We are not. We are in a small group of clubs that are very vulnerable and have a great deal to prove. Couple that, with our week in week out humiliations, poop coach and the ipitch, and it is going to be difficult to attract good players to turn things around in quite the same way, without spending a lot of money - probably up to the cap. Unfortunately, SOC has stated that he is not prepared to do this. None of the teams you mention were quite so catastrophically bad as us. Perhaps you should consider that aspect of the situation, rather than just looking at league ladders. That will tell you very little about the overall situations these clubs were in. I could point to Halifax and Leigh, and it would be equally as meaningless.
J20 wrote:
poop TEAMS CAN GET BETTER!
Some get better, some don't. Some have a lot to prove, some don't. Some spend to the cap, some don't. Some ensure they have the best coaches they can get to ensure that they improve, some don't.
Just because you say that and it happens now and then doesn't mean it will happen for us.
This is a classic piece of deluded complacency. I hope the club don't think the same way. For us to achieve this, major restructuring of the coaching and fitness departments need to take place. If this does not occur, would you still be so confident, Joey?
So, I'll ask again, if the SL drops back to 12 clubs, which is a real possibility, who do you think will get the chop before us, as things now stand?
