The Great Widnes Love In... : Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:48 pm  

Wow.. it's so nice to feel wanted.. http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=463767&start=0 I think the ball still remains firmly in our court and I was expecting a lot more posts concerning our current league position when I started the mammoth task of reading through all of this but it seems that there is a general acceptance that we have possibly sacrificed ourselves a bit here for a more widespread general good. Overall I would say that 99% are backing us to replace 'someone' in 2012.

Wow.. it's so nice to feel wanted.. http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=463767&start=0 I think the ball still remains firmly in our court and I was expecting a lot more posts concerning our current league position when I started the mammoth task of reading through all of this but it seems that there is a general acceptance that we have possibly sacrificed ourselves a bit here for a more widespread general good. Overall I would say that 99% are backing us to replace 'someone' in 2012.

Re: The Great Widnes Love In... : Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:25 pm  

It's no surprise surely? Despite my little sideswipes at how franchising affects what goes on on the pitch i wholeheartedly support the Vikings push for Super League. A decision for commonsense must be made early next year and that chioce must be Widnes. Clearly there isn't one other club ready to take the leap. What i am eagerly awaiting is the choice of which club to axe. I really cannot call this one - obviously it's between Salford, Wakey & Cas - unless the strong rumours of Harlequins demise comes to fruition.

It's gonna be a Super League droppety ding dong do in March 2011

Re: The Great Widnes Love In... : Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:59 pm  

littlerich wrote:

It's no surprise surely? Despite my little sideswipes at how franchising affects what goes on on the pitch i wholeheartedly support the Vikings push for Super League. A decision for commonsense must be made early next year and that chioce must be Widnes. Clearly there isn't one other club ready to take the leap. What i am eagerly awaiting is the choice of which club to axe. I really cannot call this one - obviously it's between Salford, Wakey & Cas - unless the strong rumours of Harlequins demise comes to fruition.

It's gonna be a Super League droppety ding dong do in March 2011

I think a spell in this division for three years would be very ominous for those clubs. Imagine knowing you are about to be relegated for three years, minimum, with the thought that, waiting in the wings are a number of sides who will probably be given their chance before you do because you've had it and they haven't. We're used to it down here, there are plenty of fans from those clubs listed above who have been bragging and sitting in ivory towers for years who must know be hurtling towards earth faster than a yorkshire sky diver who can see his cousin on the ground.

Crusaders wont be safe, there are plenty of rumours about financial state and the early crowds being a mixture of curiosity and free tickets has given way to more basement crowds as of late. They're an outside bet, as I feel the RFL will make an example of one of the heartland lot who made promises they knew they wouldn't keep.

Re: The Great Widnes Love In... : Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:05 pm  

no surprise at all that most backing widnes .
my only fear is RFL will take into account poor season this time.

Re: The Great Widnes Love In... : Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:42 pm  

Struggling to make the play offs in this league, going to have to go some in the sooper dooper league.

Re: The Great Widnes Love In... : Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:08 pm  

Zimbo wrote:

Struggling to make the play offs in this league, going to have to go some in the sooper dooper league.

What?

Re: The Great Widnes Love In... : Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:24 pm  

It will be a totally different squad for Super League, O'connor will have his cheque book out and we wont standing still thats for sure. A sprinkle of Yoof and we'll be reet.

The ideal setup for Super league would be below, 2 super 10 divisions with a play off of 4 from each division. each league will also have 2 expanison style clubs. The 2 divisions would be split to form more local derby games which would bring in more money for each club. 18 league games with challenge cup and meaningful war of the roses game back on.



Super 10 League A

Widnes
Saints
Wigan
Leigh
Warrington
Catalans
Crusaders
Barrow
Salford
Oldham

Super 10 League B

Halifax
Leeds
Bradford
Cas
Wakefield
Hull
Hull KR
Toulouse
Quins
Huddersfield

Re: The Great Widnes Love In... : Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:04 pm  

Zimbo wrote:

Struggling to make the play offs in this league, going to have to go some in the sooper dooper league.

What a load of rubbish.The cap in the Championship is £300,000 and in Superleague it is £1.65 million. Widnes attract higher crowds even when doing poorly in this crap league.It is about recruiting correctly, and most players only have 1 or 2 yr contracts.Look at leigh they where awful last year, but are much better this season.I look at only 5 or 6 players in this seasons squad who can make the step up, but i feel their is a few in the u18s and u16s will step up in the next 2 to 4 yrs.Where will 80% of the fax and barrow players be in 2 to 4yrs time?Rooney wont be good enough for Superleague.If we wanted to win the Grand Final in this league we would not have a youth set up like fax,barrow,fev or leigh.It about the bigger picture.

Re: The Great Widnes Love In... : Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:27 am  

Chris Dalton wrote:

I think a spell in this division for three years would be very ominous for those clubs. .

I feel bar Castleford who have been here before remained strong and have faith in a youth set up from bottom up (Wakey won academy championship last season by snapping up a lot of 19 / 20 yr olds so not looking too much into that!). Wakey struggle in SL so dropping out would be a huge issue, same for Reds though may have enough local sponsors available to be ok, whereas Wakeys may leave a sinking ship for other sides around them... Fev? (as you mention had their chance time for new in region?).

I think this would be a reason to drop them not keep them too btw! SL doesn't need clubs sucking the life out of it bu taking SKY money to pay of various debters have one good year then sell off assets to go again it needs teams ready to invest in the game future and present... step forward SO'C & Widnes Vikings RLFC!

Re: The Great Widnes Love In... : Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:39 am  

J20 wrote:

I feel bar Castleford who have been here before remained strong and have faith in a youth set up from bottom up (Wakey won academy championship last season by snapping up a lot of 19 / 20 yr olds so not looking too much into that!). Wakey struggle in SL so dropping out would be a huge issue, same for Reds though may have enough local sponsors available to be ok, whereas Wakeys may leave a sinking ship for other sides around them... Fev? (as you mention had their chance time for new in region?).

I think this would be a reason to drop them not keep them too btw! SL doesn't need clubs sucking the life out of it bu taking SKY money to pay of various debters have one good year then sell off assets to go again it needs teams ready to invest in the game future and present... step forward SO'C & Widnes Vikings RLFC!

What utter bollox

You'll go up and be happy for a few months , then you'll be just as fed up as you lot are now

It doesn't matter which comp you are in

When things are bad , they are bad

Have a look on the Salford , Bradford and Wakey site right now to see the future

As for all the good intentions of your junior development , that will all go out the window for the start of the 2013 season , it will be euro passported aussies everywhere

Enjoy

Don't swear on this board. Chris.