betts out : Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:52 pm  

My patience has ran out.

Get your coat and ill ring a taxi.

Re: betts out : Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:58 pm  

AGREED, only Salford & London have scored less points in SL this season, to concede 72 is woeful, even though Widnes have nothing to play for (apart from pride)

Re: betts out : Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:51 pm  

terrykelly wrote:

AGREED, only Salford & London have scored less points in SL this season, to concede 72 is woeful, even though Widnes have nothing to play for (apart from pride)

What pride was that? Gutless, pathetic, shambolic, disgraceful. Really feel for the few fans who went, but they should have known better. There've got to be big changes made and it's about time Mr O'Connor made some difficult but essential decisions.

Re: betts out : Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:56 pm  

Agree enough now I never rated Betts in the Championship either.Who available though as feel missed out on Noble and Powell.Second grade Aussie coach with ambition,Isteyn Harris or Ian millward.lol

Re: betts out : Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:51 am  

He has had his chance and he just docent get enough out of the players as a team, time to go.

Re: betts out : Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:58 am  

Dennis Betts didn't miss a single tackle. He didn't hide. he didn't bottle it either

Re: betts out : Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:20 am  

ghengis khan wrote:

Dennis Betts didn't miss a single tackle. He didn't hide. he didn't bottle it either

All boils down to the coach at the end of the day and it's up to him to have the team ready. Saying that I just think Widnes hit Hull on a high after reaching Wembley.

Re: betts out : Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:53 am  

ghengis khan wrote:

Dennis Betts didn't miss a single tackle. He didn't hide. he didn't bottle it either

Yes but he signs the players and get the best out of his players

Re: betts out : Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:15 pm  

Reality check 1: Hull are playing the best the have all season. They were tipped to challenge for silverware this year based on the squad they'd assembled but had a poor first half to the season with plenty of calls on their side for Gentle to go.

Reality check 2: After nearly 3 seasons under Denis Betts we're still not playing as well as we should be and still look out of our depth in SL for long periods in games.

I argued to let him have they run of the franchise, see how we build and then decide his fate based on the 3rd seasons performance in SL. Now two things have come to a head: We cannot recruit because the attendances are low and the coming restructure after next season.

If we're gonna change coach it should be now, not part way through next season, unsettling the team and risking another poor season. Personally I think our problem is caused by the half-arsed recruitment signing Brown at great expense knowing he'd be the only big name in the side but not making him captain. Signing too many ill-disciplined players and expecting an untested coach to sort em into shape. Deciding that was all we were signing cos the crowds were too low to sustain further squad building. Failing to blood the young players and selecting/retaining some championship standard older players in front of them. Should have been:

Season 1: Play with kids, fill any gaps with whoever we have left from the championship, expect low crowds and pastings but save cash and build towards signing a top Forward, Half and Back to start in...
Season 2: With some quality in the spine of the team see which kids have come on and sign em up while looking for weak areas and signing to fill those gaps ready for...
Season 3: Attempt to reach play-offs and judge coach based on this season's performance ready to change if need be going into a new licensing period.

If Betts had done this we'd not be worried about the restructure because we'd have an established first team and hopefully would have built crowds. We've paid too much for Brown too early and are suffering the consequences.

Re: betts out : Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:22 pm  

yossarian wrote:

Reality check 1: Hull are playing the best the have all season. They were tipped to challenge for silverware this year based on the squad they'd assembled but had a poor first half to the season with plenty of calls on their side for Gentle to go.

Reality check 2: After nearly 3 seasons under Denis Betts we're still not playing as well as we should be and still look out of our depth in SL for long periods in games.

I argued to let him have they run of the franchise, see how we build and then decide his fate based on the 3rd seasons performance in SL. Now two things have come to a head: We cannot recruit because the attendances are low and the coming restructure after next season.

If we're gonna change coach it should be now, not part way through next season, unsettling the team and risking another poor season. Personally I think our problem is caused by the half-arsed recruitment signing Brown at great expense knowing he'd be the only big name in the side but not making him captain. Signing too many ill-disciplined players and expecting an untested coach to sort em into shape. Deciding that was all we were signing cos the crowds were too low to sustain further squad building. Failing to blood the young players and selecting/retaining some championship standard older players in front of them. Should have been:

Season 1: Play with kids, fill any gaps with whoever we have left from the championship, expect low crowds and pastings but save cash and build towards signing a top Forward, Half and Back to start in...
Season 2: With some quality in the spine of the team see which kids have come on and sign em up while looking for weak areas and signing to fill those gaps ready for...
Season 3: Attempt to reach play-offs and judge coach based on this season's performance ready to change if need be going into a new licensing period.

If Betts had done this we'd not be worried about the restructure because we'd have an established first team and hopefully would have built crowds. We've paid too much for Brown too early and are suffering the consequences.

If we won the Challenge cup, the G.F and world war 3,some of our fans would still want our coach out.