: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:54 pm  

Chris Dalton wrote:

Are you Manuel from Fawlty Towers?

Thanks. Just spat my coffee at the monitor.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:02 pm  

Soldierboy wrote:

Someone with sense.Had enough hearing people too matey.I know him so should stay.Then here that club poop on him.Sorry i would love coach my club but if not good enough you should go elsewhere.This is what annoys me is people blaming the club.If i see players not professional i would bin them.

Keh?

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:23 pm  

littlerich wrote:

Thanks. Just spat my coffee at the monitor.

You can read and drink at the same time

I didn't know you were a ' bird '

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:20 pm  

Maybe PC has made a few excuses regarding the team not training together !!
Didnt he say after the Toulouse game that the previous coaching staff Steve Mac and JS deserve enormous credit for the work done before he arrived. The team, as i understood it, did train regularly. The new excuse of players not training is bull. Maybe TOC is also responsible for the problems. Who knows ??

: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:35 am  

I agree with what you are saying Ray. What gets me, is the fact that the excuses are coming from all angles about why the players aren't performing. Nothing was mentioned whatsoever early on in PC Widnes coaching life, but now the pressure has started to build and his record is getting worse, everything is a BIG problem.

Too may bluffers!

: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:50 am  

I dont pretend to know the true facts, however I do know a few players at the club and some of the backroom staff. The players arn't all full time but they did train under the previous staff. The pre season was excellent, good performances against St.Helens (reserves I know), and 40 put on Whitehaven. JS had a great result against Toulouse. What has changed since then.
Pie face you are spot on. Too many bluffers!
Im not saying things where all well at the club before PC came in however it has gone 20 times worse. The players in the squad are good enough to be at the top of the league, they cant stand Cullen and have lost respect for TOC. It may have been a case of "be careful what you wish for" !!

: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:55 am  

I like it Ray, at last somebody who is on my wavelength.

I happen to know Ste Mc pretty well, and he is a great coach. One thing that I can definately say about him is that the players respected him and wanted to play for him.

Always reminds me on David Brent from the office.

: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:14 am  

ray wrote:

they cant stand Cullen

Even if this is true then I wouldn't mind.How far did we get when the player's were under Mr niceguy.

: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:22 am  

A better win percentage
A better points for and against
Achieving finals
A nicer bloke
A better, more respected coach

Do you want more?

What about;

We never heard MR NICEGUY come out with half the excuses in his 3+ years at the club as we have done from PC in the last few weeks.
Things must have been really bad for us to achieve the finals we have in the past few years.

Yes, we lost the league finals in one off games, but at least we got there. It doesn't even look like we'll achieve the play offs in current form.

Oh, al,ost forgot. Mr Niceguy also won our last trophy.

: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:24 am  

GSF wrote:

How far did we get when the player's were under Mr niceguy.

We made the final twice and won more games than we lost. Neither is looking very likely at the moment?