: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:50 pm  

J20 wrote:

Surely Haven near enough at cap aswell? Basing this on fact you had a transfer emabrgo placed on you so you couldn't break it that was only lifted recently?

the embargo was due to our finance troubles meaning us near the 50% of income not the full 450k cap

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:03 pm  

haven4ever wrote:

and yours barrow and widnes large wage bill has got you where

equall on points with haven whos wage will be at least a third less,

widnes are already making noises about cutting cost and barrow chairman only last week said he cant continue to pump money in with out other income streams, no doubt the fax BOD will be thinking along the same lines and this will be good news to them as they now have an excuse not to sign all the supposed best players

Fev are nowhere near the cap.

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:58 pm  

Soldierboy wrote:

So we be part time fully now and hope our academy players are decent.Think this cap for every team except widnes,leigh,halifax and barrow.Batley could win the league now.But hopefully our good youth development programme will help us more.Lets hope we get a franchise now otherwise rfl can love off.

Only in RL will the governing body drag the better teams down a level rather than trying to raise the other teams up.

Disgusting.

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:29 pm  

Listening to SOC I get the impression he is in favour of this.

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:20 pm  

A.N.Other Viking wrote:

Listening to SOC I get the impression he is in favour of this.

I agree, we have u21's and u18's, and u16's to pay for as well as a competitive 1st team.

I heard quite a few months ago now that we had meetings with the RFL which were very positive - The major obstacle for us at that time seemed to be the playing criteria. With that box ticked, there isn't a great deal more we can do, so the drop in cap will probably be very welcome to SO'C.

As a seperate issue, apparantly the RFL were less than impressed with certain clubs who may have recenty dumped their youth structure.

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:32 pm  

We can only trust SOC's business acumen.. If he is in favour of this then it clearly fits into the the clubs plans to get to Super League.

If in 2 years time we're all celebrating and picking ourselves up off the floor following the RFL doing the right thing for a change, these changes will have been worth it.

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:48 pm  

GetThemScallyWags wrote:

We can only trust SOC's business acumen.. If he is in favour of this then it clearly fits into the the clubs plans to get to Super League.

If in 2 years time we're all celebrating and picking ourselves up off the floor following the RFL doing the right thing for a change, these changes will have been worth it.

And what if they haven't? What if they decide not to do the right thing? What then? We will be further neutered. TWO places for relegation, no places for promotion, a completely equalised league no matter how far ahead we are in terms of finances and crowds, it would not be good for us at all.

That decision is even larger than it was last time. If they deny us this time, with the clearest case for a license and several in super league going back on promises that could be the worst moment in the clubs history.

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:11 pm  

Chris Dalton wrote:

And what if they haven't? What if they decide not to do the right thing? What then? We will be further neutered. TWO places for relegation, no places for promotion, a completely equalised league no matter how far ahead we are in terms of finances and crowds, it would not be good for us at all.

That decision is even larger than it was last time. If they deny us this time, with the clearest case for a license and several in super league going back on promises that could be the worst moment in the clubs history.

If they were to deny you lot again , then the time will have come

A simple question at an APC meeting

" Are you coming with us ? "

: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:02 am  

So the turkeys have voted for Christmas...

: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:33 am  

Chris Dalton wrote:

And what if they haven't? What if they decide not to do the right thing? What then? We will be further neutered. TWO places for relegation, no places for promotion, a completely equalised league no matter how far ahead we are in terms of finances and crowds, it would not be good for us at all.

That decision is even larger than it was last time. If they deny us this time, with the clearest case for a license and several in super league going back on promises that could be the worst moment in the clubs history.

I know its all hypothetical but I believe that SO'C may have a bit more fight if it was to happen again. He wouldn't really be left with any other option would he. With a top stadium, youth development that can't really go any further, decent crowds and a competitive team on the pitch - if we were rejected again, we may as well get rid of all youth development and have no full time players - how would that be good for the game?

Surely the RFL must be seen to reward clubs for doing things the right way, otherwise what the point in anyone even trying? Also if it is treated as a closed shop, there would absolutely no threat to the current SL teams to improve on what they are doing. You never know in a couple of years time we might be held by the RFL as a shining example of how to win a licence from outside SL.