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Re: Ainscough : Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:26 am  
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Great post, well done.

It's a shame Ainscough has gone but if you rely on dual contracted players this year you will come unstuck. We have Gaskell and Paddy Flynn to come back into the team who were first choice wingers anyway before Ainscough came in. Gardener is playing there now too and doing ok. I hope Shaun does well at Cas, he's a good player.


I know what your saying AJ, but just say that Ainscough stayed for half the season, do you expect your 2 wingers i.e Gaskell and Flynn to be happy kicking their heals in the reserves waiting for their chance. You say that they were 1st choice wingers anyway but 3 into 2 doesn't go unless your going to put one of them on the bench which is a waste in the modern game. I just feel this dual reg business could upset many of your established squad players.
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Re: Ainscough : Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:42 am  
Show me a squad that goes into the season with just 2 wingers? It would be crazy to do that. We knew Ainscough wouldn't have played every game anyway, hence dual registration. We had the same situation with Penny, Gaskell and Flynn last year and it worked well, infact when Wire took Penny back Paddy Flynn (who had made way) put in some fantastic performances. It's a squad game, people pick up injuries, loss of form etc. We were covering ourselves by getting Ainscough in but we can't be blamed for him leaving. I'm sure we will look at other options.
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Re: Ainscough : Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:47 am  
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I just feel this dual reg business could upset many of your established squad players.


Sorry, I missed this point, and it's something that concerns me too.

I'm looking at Liam Farrell, who I think is a fantastic player and is good enough to be in Wigan's first team now. But he trains with Wigan 4 days a week and came in a week before the season started, and has started every game (I think).

Players like Kavanagh and Doran etc. I'm sure aren't too happy to start on the bench being Widnes players, training at the club all week and having been there a while.
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Re: Ainscough : Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:57 pm  
That's the point I'm trying to make, they train with there Super League club all week and turn up at the weekend to play for you, how do you go through set moves or plays at training when some of your players aren't there, this dual reg business definately favours the fat cats from Super League IMO, and I'm not just saying that because my team Barrow haven't got any.
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Re: Ainscough : Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:42 pm  
http://dprl.blogspot.com/ i've commented about the Dual Contract system on there.
http://dprl.blogspot.com/ i've commented about the Dual Contract system on there.
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Re: Ainscough : Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:32 pm  
Depends which way you look at it. You and Fred have both said it heavily favours the SL clubs, which I kind of agree with, but that would probably depend on who pays the wages of the player and how long he plays for you.

Take Ainscough, he's played 3 games when we have both Flynn and Gaskell out injured, and scored 4 tries. Now Flynn isn't far away he can go back in, not bad business by Widnes? If Wigan pay most of Shaun's wages, or even half, then definitely.

I'm sure the players that are making way for dual players will get their chance at some point, and if you play well in the shirt you should keep it.

I still think its a good thing as it strengthens the game overall of young lads coming through, I believe (although they were on loan) that Craig Hall and Kevin Penny dropping a division for 2 months made them better players at the end of the spell, likewise with Ainscough maybe, Farrell, Mitchell etc.

The Championship clubs know the risks they are letting themselves into and should just not be reliant on bringing in dual players and building their team around them, that's when it will fail.
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Re: Ainscough : Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:42 pm  
I wonder if in future years a dual contract system will appear between Championship and Championship One clubs?

There are enough former Leigh and Widnes players bobbing around in that competition anyway arent there?
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Re: Ainscough : Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:50 pm  
http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... cough.html

staying at cast until end of season, even bigger kick in teeth for the dual contract system.
http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... cough.html

staying at cast until end of season, even bigger kick in teeth for the dual contract system.
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Re: Ainscough : Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:29 pm  
swifty62 wrote:
http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/10/03/26/RUGBYL_Castleford_Ainscough.html

staying at cast until end of season, even bigger kick in teeth for the dual contract system.
Not to much of a problem tbh, with him going cas, it has free'd up a space to bring in another dual/loan signing. Hopefully a forward
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