Re: Does anyone else think it's a joke that... : Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:41 pm  

Roofaldo wrote:

So how do you define a "top quality" import? Or is it just that if they play for Widnes they'll automatically be a "top quality import"

The fact is, if Widnes want to compete in SL then they'll use the same quota rules as everyone else including all the loop holes to allow them to put together a competitive squad. You may delude yourself into thinking you're not going to do that, but all that will mean is that you'll just be whipping boys.

Whipping boys like Huddersfield Saints and Wigan.

It's not all about filling your side with imports is it? It's about having a good balance of youth and experience. I've no doubt it will be tough but the point being made here is super league and licensing was set up to prevent teams from filling their sides with overrated antopideans and it hasn't yet worked.

suddenly it's gone quiet........

Suddenly? you've not been coming on here long have you? Fact is, Bradford are not a team we will be emulating. You're on a downward spiral. You've got an offer on for dirt cheap season tickets and what are you giving all these fans? A boring, under achieving squad and one of the worst match day experiences in super league. Enjoy comrade. Enjoy!

Re: Does anyone else think it's a joke that... : Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:45 pm  

Chris Dalton wrote:

Suddenly? you've not been coming on here long have you? Fact is, Bradford are not a team we will be emulating. You're on a downward spiral. You've got an offer on for dirt cheap season tickets and what are you giving all these fans? A boring, under achieving squad and one of the worst match day experiences in super league. Enjoy comrade. Enjoy!

Widnes will not be emulating all that?

Re: Does anyone else think it's a joke that... : Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:55 pm  

Woah slow down there my little chemical friends. Yer can't be laying the boot into SL clubs before you even get there !

Re: Does anyone else think it's a joke that... : Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:28 am  

Chris Dalton wrote:

Whipping boys like Huddersfield Saints and Wigan.

It's not all about filling your side with imports is it? It's about having a good balance of youth and experience. I've no doubt it will be tough but the point being made here is super league and licensing was set up to prevent teams from filling their sides with overrated antopideans and it hasn't yet worked.

Suddenly? you've not been coming on here long have you? Fact is, Bradford are not a team we will be emulating. You're on a downward spiral. You've got an offer on for dirt cheap season tickets and what are you giving all these fans? A boring, under achieving squad and one of the worst match day experiences in super league. Enjoy comrade. Enjoy!

Well you have emulated this from your previous Super League venture. Bradford are one of the most succesful sides in Super League and i cannot undertsand how a widnes fan who is still watching his team play second degree rugby league has the nerve to trample on the reputation of Bradford Bulls. Yes we are not the force of 5 years ago but we are slowly rebuilding and do not use our full quota space as most super league sides do. No doubt your 2012 Super League WILL do this and i advise that you respect your Super League 'elders' who are more decorated and wiser than your club. Nothing against widnes or their fans but i don't appreciate slander from this poster

Re: Does anyone else think it's a joke that... : Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:57 am  

Chris Dalton wrote:

Whipping boys like Huddersfield Saints and Wigan.

It's not all about filling your side with imports is it? It's about having a good balance of youth and experience. I've no doubt it will be tough but the point being made here is super league and licensing was set up to prevent teams from filling their sides with overrated antopideans and it hasn't yet worked.

Suddenly? you've not been coming on here long have you? Fact is, Bradford are not a team we will be emulating. You're on a downward spiral. You've got an offer on for dirt cheap season tickets and what are you giving all these fans? A boring, under achieving squad and one of the worst match day experiences in super league. Enjoy comrade. Enjoy!

And you'll have that balance straight off upon entering SL? I think not. Bradford are not a team you'll be emulating? So being one of the most successful sides of the SL is not something to emulate? Well don't worry, I'm sure Widnes won't do that.

Re: Does anyone else think it's a joke that... : Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:36 am  

Funny how they think they'll be great as soon as they come up. Your only decent youngster is Jack Owens. Where is allhis other youth?? Every SL team has a few decent youngsters, some more than others, yet you try to be offhand with Bradford who bring in more youth than the majority of clubs? Mate if you (as Widnes) don't use your full quota, you WILL finish bottom, wel maybe above Crusaders and Quins. Maybe.

Re: Does anyone else think it's a joke that... : Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:27 am  

Bulls Boy 2011 wrote:

Funny how they think they'll be great as soon as they come up. Your only decent youngster is Jack Owens. Where is allhis other youth?? Every SL team has a few decent youngsters, some more than others, yet you try to be offhand with Bradford who bring in more youth than the majority of clubs? Mate if you (as Widnes) don't use your full quota, you WILL finish bottom, wel maybe above Crusaders and Quins. Maybe.

Okay then.

Out of the current list of first team squad members we have...

Paddy Flynn
Danny Hulme
Danny Craven
Shane Grady
Anthony Mullally [who just so happens to be decent enough to be on loan with Brisbane Broncos]
Jack Owens
Dave Houghton
Grant Gore
Chris Lunt

possibly more

Who have all featured at some point in our team this season. Thats 9 players who are all under the age of 22, in fact most are under the age of 20. I'd say they're pretty decent enough. You probably only know of Owens due to the Barrow game. So unless you've actually taken the time out to make the trip down to Widnes to watch our academy sides play, no he is not our "only decent youngster".

I'll also draw your attention to Saturday 2nd April 2011 when our "not so decent" youth beat yours 34-16. Not bad for a second tier youth set up with only one decent player?

Re: Does anyone else think it's a joke that... : Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:41 am  

Bulls Boy 2011 wrote:

Funny how they think they'll be great as soon as they come up. Your only decent youngster is Jack Owens. Where is allhis other youth?? Every SL team has a few decent youngsters, some more than others, yet you try to be offhand with Bradford who bring in more youth than the majority of clubs? Mate if you (as Widnes) don't use your full quota, you WILL finish bottom, wel maybe above Crusaders and Quins. Maybe.

Which is exactly what's wrong with our game right now, even just having that view point.

The point I was trying to get across is that yes you do bring a good amount of youngsters through BUT still feel the need to use up full quota's etc. That is a worry for the game as a whole.

Re: Does anyone else think it's a joke that... : Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:02 pm  

ChrisViking wrote:

Okay then.

Out of the current list of first team squad members we have...

Paddy Flynn
Danny Hulme
Danny Craven
Shane Grady
Anthony Mullally [who just so happens to be decent enough to be on loan with Brisbane Broncos]
Jack Owens
Dave Houghton
Grant Gore
Chris Lunt

possibly more

Who have all featured at some point in our team this season. Thats 9 players who are all under the age of 22, in fact most are under the age of 20. I'd say they're pretty decent enough. You probably only know of Owens due to the Barrow game. So unless you've actually taken the time out to make the trip down to Widnes to watch our academy sides play, no he is not our "only decent youngster".

I'll also draw your attention to Saturday 2nd April 2011 when our "not so decent" youth beat yours 34-16. Not bad for a second tier youth set up with only one decent player?

BOOM!

Re: Does anyone else think it's a joke that... : Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:32 pm  

phillgee wrote:

Widnes will not be emulating all that?

No of course not. We don't play in a slum for starters.