Re: Widnes hand Betts new contract : Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:05 pm  

christie wrote:

Looks like a clearout at the club is happening. Paul Hansbury, kit-man, is the first according to Twitter, with more to follow.

rs wrote:

Very sad news if Paul goes real shame. I understand one of the lasses from the office has gone too, won't say the name unless confirmed but she was always friendly and helpful and appeared on top of things when you asked her anything.

True about 'Big Lad'. He's absolutely gutted. Bad and sad news. Is something amiss or is the regime simply cutting its cloth accordingly?

Re: Widnes hand Betts new contract : Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:21 pm  

Been a stalwart in good times and bad.

Best of Luck Paul.

Hopefully simply getting leaner. RFL seem to have altered the off field requirements quite a bit, presumably to help clubs spread the cash thinner.

Does make you think if a total finance re-think, for the game as a whole, is coming. So much happening to save cash.

Wonder if it is going to see the end of 'expansionism'?

We are never going to challenge RU or soccer, better making sure that our domestic game is fit and well and managing its finances.

Re: Widnes hand Betts new contract : Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:41 pm  

Rule has cut all non-essential spend. Does a kit man need to be on a salary? I know a SL club not too far away from us has a young lad doing it.

Re: Widnes hand Betts new contract : Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:52 am  

But the point is that we are reverting to the semi-pro era, which was what Lewis was trying to leave behind.

Where, in those days, the TV revenue (from the Cup then) was a happy little bonus, now it's the gate money that is the bonus! We have been trapped into living almost entirely from the Sky cash.

This is OK while Sky pay up, but the game cannot stand on its own any longer.

If Sky up the ante we will be OK but as it stands at the moment we are on the way back to semi-pro status imo.

The game was fine then, until the bigger clubs started the contract system and ran out of cash.

Re: Widnes hand Betts new contract : Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:25 am  

AJ Viking wrote:

Rule has cut all non-essential spend. Does a kit man need to be on a salary? I know a SL club not too far away from us has a young lad doing it.

Cutting spend and helping to make the club sustainable is his brief. I have had a chat with James Rule and increasing income for the club is Priority One.

Getting more people through the turnstiles and the efficiency of the non-playing staff are two important ways of doing that.

I think that the RFL will pay far more attention to the financial aspect of running a club than they have hitherto done, and I think that there are some very important issues to be addressed.

Re: Widnes hand Betts new contract : Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:44 am  

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Re: Widnes hand Betts new contract : Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:52 am  

AJ Viking wrote:

Rule has cut all non-essential spend. Does a kit man need to be on a salary? I know a SL club not too far away from us has a young lad doing it.

Always sad when someone loses their job but sounds like a sensible business decision to me.Why employ somebody to do the kit full time,12 months per year when the season only lasts 7/8 months.I wouldn't be surprised if an outside contractor will be doing it for half the price and that is just common sense.

Re: Widnes hand Betts new contract : Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:16 am  

For the sake of fairness I have seen Paul selling tickets, answering enquiries and manning the shop as well as Kitman duties. I suspect he carries out other tasks too.

Re: Widnes hand Betts new contract : Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:44 am  

rs wrote:

For the sake of fairness I have seen Paul selling tickets, answering enquiries and manning the shop as well as Kitman duties. I suspect he carries out other tasks too.

Very true - Paul has been around for a long time and in the old Widnes set up was a general utility man. But things have changed, can't think of any of the 'old' Widnes staff still there.

Sadly this is what is happening at more than Widnes RLFC. At least Widnes started at the top. Salford still have Simms taking a salary!

Re: Widnes hand Betts new contract : Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:54 am  

Surely a other topic for this would be far better?