Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:36 pm  

deeHell wrote:

I was coming out with a fair opinion regarding P/R and franchising. As a passionate supporter of P/R I was hoping someone would give a good counter argument. That sadly has not materialized and if anything has made me more convinced that my opinion is the strongest.

I don't think your opening post went down well.

deeHell wrote:

Your having a laugh! Well it certainly makes me laugh when Widnes fans think that they have a god given right to be next team in SL. Considering they have yet to win the big one in the Championship...Fact! For a team that failed to cut it, consistently on the field, when it mattered there seems be a lot self pitty surrounding your position. Can we have a reality check please...?

Not a good way to start a thread if all you wanted was fair opinions and good counter arguments.

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:36 pm  

deeHell wrote:

I was coming out with a fair opinion regarding P/R and franchising. As a passionate supporter of P/R I was hoping someone would give a good counter argument. That sadly has not materialized and if anything has made me more convinced that my opinion is the strongest.

deeHell wrote:

And same could be said about you and Wakefield, but it didn't stop you voicing an opinion!

I wish there was such thing as CTL+ALT+FLUSH INTO THE TOILET.

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:54 pm  

deeHell wrote:

I've displayed no bitterness what so ever, I've had much bitterness directed at me including name calling that you are now resorting to. You know your winning the argument when people start calling instead of debating!

The truth is I have come out with what is an unpopular opinion amongst Widnes fans. Some people need to look up the word forum in a dictionary.

You lost any arguement with your first post, you have ignored previous posts because you simply cannot form any sort of counter arguement as you know were correct in everything we say.

Quite simply you have been shot down and are now simply embarrasing yourself.

Feel free to carry on so the reading public can laugh at you some more.

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:57 pm  

deeHell wrote:

I was coming out with a fair opinion regarding P/R and franchising. As a passionate supporter of P/R I was hoping someone would give a good counter argument. That sadly has not materialized and if anything has made me more convinced that my opinion is the strongest.

I think Mr Mensa has finally realised that most people on here do not support the licensing process.

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:30 pm  

-VIKINGMAN- wrote:

You lost any arguement with your first post, you have ignored previous posts because you simply cannot form any sort of counter arguement as you know were correct in everything we say.

Quite simply you have been shot down and are now simply embarrasing yourself.

Feel free to carry on so the reading public can laugh at you some more.

I believe I have answered a questions asked off me although not a an individual basis but in a broad way as a lot of them were pretty similar points.

Now can you return the favor and answer why you think Wakefield are the most vulnerable of all the current SL franchises?

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:36 pm  

You really are papping yourself about the next round of applications If you wasn't you wouldn't be doing all this trolling

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:43 pm  

deeHell wrote:

I believe I have answered a questions asked off me although not a an individual basis but in a broad way as a lot of them were pretty similar points.

Now can you return the favor and answer why you think Wakefield are the most vulnerable of all the current SL franchises?

Okay for starters you are the weakest in Yorkshire in terms of Support (fan base) Cas have much more going for them IMO and the support they get for a town that size is remarkable.

Secondly your stadium is garbage the worst in Super League, balls to the plans until a brick is laid you wont convince me it will be ready for 2012.

And finally money problems '12 weeks to raise and pay HM revenue £192,000 or face being wound up'

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:50 pm  

deeHell wrote:

I believe I have answered a questions asked off me although not a an individual basis but in a broad way as a lot of them were pretty similar points.

Now can you return the favor and answer why you think Wakefield are the most vulnerable of all the current SL franchises?

Harlequins and Celtic (if they survive) are a shoo-in. Cas and Hull KR have bigger crowds and slightly better stadia than Wakefield. Salford are a tough one to call, Leigh should have got in before them last time so there is something the RFL like about them despite mickey poor attendances and a ground that is again slightly better than Wakefield's. There is also the imbalance East of the Pennines so a West Yorkshire club is the most likely to go.The biggest black mark for Wakefield came when they faced a winding up order from the IR. It is a symptom that could indicate a more serious underlying concern.

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:52 pm  

rufustanner wrote:

Harlequins and Celtic (if they survive) are a shoo-in. Cas and Hull KR have bigger crowds and slightly better stadia than Wakefield. Salford are a tough one to call, Leigh should have got in before them last time so there is something the RFL like about them despite mickey poor attendances and a ground that is again slightly better than Wakefield's. There is also in imbalance of East of the Pennines so a West Yorkshire club is the most likely to go.The biggest black mark for Wakefield came when they faced a winding up order from the IR. It is a symptom that could indicate a more serious underlying concern.

Well said that is another reason.

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:26 pm  

Soldierboy wrote:

Your defo troll of the year and a cocksucker.Well if it was on best team in championship go up and worst in superleague go down i would agree.If no salary cap i am sure ste oconnor would splash his money to smash the league.At the end of the day, if got great players and a good coach you can win the league.You lucky to have a great coach in kear.Why you here when your team is in superleague already? Most wakey fans ok except cocks like you need windmilling. All teams would like superleague and to come here spouting is a disgrace.Why wakey got the god given right aswell?To stop animosity i prefer promotion and relegation every year.I think if this was the case i be confident widnes would go up if could spend.So go away until got a goodpoint you wakey idiot.

No need for all the insults soldier boy. you had your chance of super league and blew it, all you had to do was beat the cas scumbags. like deehell says you do not deserve a franchise because your team is simply not good enough FACT! you may have a nice stadium but the main point of the franchise is how competitive you are as a team and you fail badly in that department