: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:13 pm  

tommy wrote:

Technically the fact ours aren't are good shouldn't matter, a ticked box is a ticked box if you get me (even though you're right on the above 3 points)

The problem with the whole system is just that though. Take away the clubs that score like 10-11 out of 12 and get an A license (5 clubs) by 2011 the other clubs in SL at the mo and You, Fax, Leigh, Toulose, Barrow, Gateshead (?) could all post the same score so it's always going to be down to who the RFL 'WANT'.

If Widnes dont get in it would be an absolute farce (like it's not anyway) and the thought of Halifax getting a place doesn't enter my mind, 'cause i just can't see it tbh.

even when that stand at fax is finally complete, the shay still could never be classed as a "premier" sporting venue, the seating down the side and both areas behind the sticks lack the basic facilities such as toilets and food outlets etc.

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:19 pm  

littlerich wrote:

Vikingman - you should be on the selection panel ! A good effort there, nice bit of research and no shocks. Well done - a better "licensee" than Al Murray

Jesus! Get a room!

It's not Widnes you love, it's vikingman!

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:25 pm  

Chris Dalton wrote:

Jesus! Get a room!

It's not Widnes you love, it's vikingman!

He's a quality poster and i respect him enourmously. He's a beacon of light in a dull word. He is a demigod, an apostle, an example to us all on how we should post on here. In fact, if i didn't know any better, i'd say he was Jesus Christ risen again.

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:31 pm  

[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]Lets look at Widnes/Fax/Leigh, will give marks out of 10 at the end of each group

Do you want Nigel Woods job? Im sure you wouldnt eat as much as him

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:34 pm  

faxlad66 wrote:

-VIKINGMAN- wrote:

Lets look at Widnes/Fax/Leigh, will give marks out of 10 at the end of each group

Do you want Nigel Woods job? Im sure you wouldnt eat as much as him

My message would be simple in terms of the recent news.

If your ground aint built then you can drop down until it is and then re-apply.

Widnes/Fax/Leigh in

Cas/Wakey/Salford out.



2015

Cas can come back with open arms

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:21 pm  

Twitch wrote:

I can't say I agree with all your marking but to be honest come 2011 a lot could change and you must realise that.

If Leigh get relagated the gamble of bulding a team from next year will of failed, if we stay up,we will be 100% stronger next year on many fronts.

The French bid will definately be a strong one and Gateshead have a lot of backing.

Widnes are in the box seat but as you know only too well the RFL are anything but fair in whatever they do.

I just wish everyone would enjoy a great League that we are in at present,the speculation about Franchising drives me nuts.

The irony is I think most Widnes fans seem to appreciate the Championship more and seem less bothered about being rejected next time.

Of course we all want it but I think because we've been burned and realised that the Championship isn't so bad after all that we're less desperate for it than we were.

: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:42 pm  

-VIKINGMAN- wrote:

Lets look at Widnes/Fax/Leigh, will give marks out of 10 at the end of each group


Sponsorship

Widnes - Stobarts

Halifax - Halifax home insurance thingy me bob

Leigh - JR (local pie seller)???

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 7/10
Leigh - 4/10

Ground

Widnes - Stobart Stadium all seater

Halifax - Half good half bad, once finished will look decent enough

Leigh - Cracking sports Village

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 7/10 (if finished)
Leigh - 9/10

Support

Widnes - average at around 3,800

Halifax - average at around 2,400

Leigh - average at around 1,900

Widnes - 6/10
Halifax - 5/10
Leigh - 4/10

Chairman

Widnes - Steve O'connor - Millionaire business man who works for a huge company

Halifax - Michael Steele - apologies but dont know anything about him

Leigh - Arthur Thomas - Millionaire??????

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 6/10
Leigh - 6/10

Youth setup/scholarship/community

Widnes - Run at all ages and have award winning community programme. 6 home grown in squad

Halifax - No academy at any level but decent community work.

Leigh - Reserve side but no academy or foundation, award winning community work. Numerous home grown in squad


Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 4/10
Leigh - 6/10

Professional club setup/Media prescense

Widnes - Up to date official website, and sky media bitches in Terry Oconnor and Paul King Cullen. Correct people in place at the club.

Halifax - Up to date website, would need to employ more staff in key positions within the club to advance.

Leigh - Not a bad website but can be improved, probably need a couple more key individuals added to the club.


Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 6/10
Leigh - 6/10







Totals


Widnes 46
Halifax 35
Leigh 35

Very good assessment there

For a mutant

: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:07 am  

vikinggriff1979 wrote:

even when that stand at fax is finally complete, the shay still could never be classed as a "premier" sporting venue, the seating down the side and both areas behind the sticks lack the basic facilities such as toilets and food outlets etc.

The away stand and old seating area do you're right, but 'premier sporting venue' and what the RFL want will all be in the new stand with its directors boxes, lounges etc etc. Plus if we need to spruce up the tolilet in those 2 stands and get an extra food outlet, am sure thats a quick an easy job tbh.

Without trying to be biased, i genuinely think The Shay will be one of the, not best stadiums persay, but most ideal for rugby league a bit like Warrington, but with crap lavs basically haha. It's got 2 good, deep standing areas, a modern all seater stand with everything, and a basic seater stand the other side.

Basically i disagree with you're point to the certain extent it's 'premier' in the eyes of RFL ( i think), however it's clearly lacking in some departments

: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:54 am  

-VIKINGMAN- wrote:

Lets look at Widnes/Fax/Leigh, will give marks out of 10 at the end of each group


Sponsorship

Widnes - Stobarts

Halifax - Halifax home insurance thingy me bob

Leigh - JR (local pie seller)???

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 7/10
Leigh - 4/10

Ground

Widnes - Stobart Stadium all seater

Halifax - Half good half bad, once finished will look decent enough

Leigh - Cracking sports Village

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 7/10 (if finished)
Leigh - 9/10

Support

Widnes - average at around 3,800

Halifax - average at around 2,400

Leigh - average at around 1,900

Widnes - 6/10
Halifax - 5/10
Leigh - 4/10

Chairman

Widnes - Steve O'connor - Millionaire business man who works for a huge company

Halifax - Michael Steele - apologies but dont know anything about him

Leigh - Arthur Thomas - Millionaire??????

Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 6/10
Leigh - 6/10

Youth setup/scholarship/community

Widnes - Run at all ages and have award winning community programme. 6 home grown in squad

Halifax - No academy at any level but decent community work.

Leigh - Reserve side but no academy or foundation, award winning community work. Numerous home grown in squad


Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 4/10
Leigh - 6/10

Professional club setup/Media prescense

Widnes - Up to date official website, and sky media bitches in Terry Oconnor and Paul King Cullen. Correct people in place at the club.

Halifax - Up to date website, would need to employ more staff in key positions within the club to advance.

Leigh - Not a bad website but can be improved, probably need a couple more key individuals added to the club.


Widnes - 8/10
Halifax - 6/10
Leigh - 6/10







Totals


Widnes 46
Halifax 35
Leigh 35

Well done softlad. At least we can be equal with Halifax on something!!

If Leigh stay up, do the same thing in 12 months time. Your marking may be a little different!

: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:08 pm  

at the minute maybe thats not a bad score...however i do belive that fax are in front of leigh in the licencing!

and WHEN we win the league and the GF these scores will all change!