: Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:37 pm  

absolute joke! feel for the guy

Dean Gaskell banned for 3 months : Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:52 pm  

Seems his ban starts from now, so will be able to play from January.

: Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:10 am  

Blueboy wrote:

Would've thought thats a guarenteed. These things only come out once the players are caught, e.g Hock and andrew johns.

Plus the Rugby league only test urine, not blood, this allows player to take growth hormone as opposed to steroids as it doesn't show up. One SL player i know quite well says he suspects the use of growth hormone in the game is rife aswell as recreational drugs.

If Gaskells ban starts now I suppose it doesn't really matter, still a poor decision though.

I am led to believe HGH is very very hard to detect in blood anyway as well as being a very expensive test. It also has to be specifically tested for. I don't recall any sports person being done for HGH ? As far as I am aware you need a standard sample from the person being tested to compare raised levels against - Problem is getting this 'standard sample'.

I for one thing the whole banning of Gaskell is a joke and would be more than happy signing an online petition if it was set up.

: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:47 am  

Gary High wrote:

I am led to believe HGH is very very hard to detect in blood anyway as well as being a very expensive test. It also has to be specifically tested for. I don't recall any sports person being done for HGH ? As far as I am aware you need a standard sample from the person being tested to compare raised levels against - Problem is getting this 'standard sample'.

I for one thing the whole banning of Gaskell is a joke and would be more than happy signing an online petition if it was set up.

Liam Fox has set up a group on Facebook called Dean Gaskell is innocent and it already has over 100 members.

: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:45 pm  

Gary High wrote:

I am led to believe HGH is very very hard to detect in blood anyway as well as being a very expensive test. It also has to be specifically tested for. I don't recall any sports person being done for HGH ? As far as I am aware you need a standard sample from the person being tested to compare raised levels against - Problem is getting this 'standard sample'.

I for one thing the whole banning of Gaskell is a joke and would be more than happy signing an online petition if it was set up.

I'm not sure how hard growth hormone is to detect but the player I know believes it is mainly down to cost and the fact that the RL could be fairly embarrased by the number of players that would test positive.

Take your point about it being difficult to get the standard sample, could probably go into most gyms though and find somebody who would admit to taking it and give you the sample.

: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:06 pm  

macs fan wrote:

Liam Fox has set up a group on Facebook called Dean Gaskell is innocent and it already has over 100 members.

good lad for doing that, but i think it is a bit much that he wants people to donate to 'a fund' though

: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:49 pm  

Willie Morgan on the wing wrote:

good lad for doing that, but i think it is a bit much that he wants people to donate to 'a fund' though

Yeah i've just seen that and as someone has said the club are standing by him so he should still be getting paid.

: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:39 pm  

Chris Dalton wrote: Hate to be paranoid but were Dean Gaskill playing for a top SL club would this be happening now? http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... _test_quiz He didn't get banned... so there's your answer!

Chris Dalton wrote: Hate to be paranoid but were Dean Gaskill playing for a top SL club would this be happening now? http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... _test_quiz He didn't get banned... so there's your answer!

: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:04 am  

Blueboy wrote:

I'm not sure how hard growth hormone is to detect but the player I know believes it is mainly down to cost and the fact that the RL could be fairly embarrased by the number of players that would test positive.

Take your point about it being difficult to get the standard sample, could probably go into most gyms though and find somebody who would admit to taking it and give you the sample.

You would need the standard sample from the person to be tested as everybody has differing HGH levels in their body - that is another reason why it is so hard to detect

: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:17 pm  

Gary High wrote:

You would need the standard sample from the person to be tested as everybody has differing HGH levels in their body - that is another reason why it is so hard to detect

The RL will probably never test for it anyway just for the cost of it. Would be good to know which players are on or have taken steroids or growth hormone, because no amount of creatine, protein, proper diet and training hard will get you as big as a lot of the players!