Re: ! : Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:37 pm  

Alex J wrote:

Why are you throwing good money away? My support of Widnes isn't based on Super League or nothing.

The people who I've heard say they might stop watching Widnes are not saying so because they think it's a waste of time and money but because they would be so upset at the decision to not let us in.

at this moment in time i dont work, i go as many games as i can but if there is continually going to be nothing to play for then it gets a bit pointless

Re: Losing Interest : Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:00 am  

Pepe wrote:

Yes, he has a PS3, and every other game playing gadget you can think of. He just cannot wait for any longer than is strictly necessary to watch it. We’ve got Sky HD, so we recorded it for him, and he still wasn’t happy!

If we don’t get out of this league, I doubt he’ll want to carry on going at all. He’d sooner go out with his mates these days. I loved the game when I was 11, but I had a great team playing RL at the highest level, and I had no Nintendo X stations and Wii PSP’s to play with…







…oh and Dr Who was poop then too.

Tis not necessarily the end for the lad. I've seen people go through periods early on where they're not interested but they regain it later on when they realise there is more to life than Ricicles and Going Live!

Actually during the 80s there wasn't much more to life than that thinking about it.

Re: Losing Interest : Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:01 am  

You guys are hilarious, even if there WAS auto P and R then you guys wouldnt have got promoted, you didnt win the league last year. Before you go moaning about how your being wronged by not being in the big league maybe you should win the comp underneath that first. Sure you have "ticked the box" but wouldnt it be nice to cap your (almost certain IMO) return to SL in 2012 by winning the competition.

P.S dont see this as a dig at your club or take the usual RLfans practice of slagging me off, I have a lot of time for your club and the people who are involved with the organisation, not to mention your superb fans.

P.P.S as a Barrow lad I can only give my opinion on it: Since my local side got promoted from Champ 1, I feel very fortunate that Barrow now get to rub shoulders against sides like yourselves and Halifax (both former SL clubs), and while it feels odd having won the competition and now having to repeat the process I know that as Barrow Raiders stand it would have been almost impossible for us to compete in SL.

Re: Losing Interest : Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:34 am  

marvwoodburn wrote:

You guys are hilarious, even if there WAS auto P and R then you guys wouldnt have got promoted, you didnt win the league last year. Before you go moaning about how your being wronged by not being in the big league maybe you should win the comp underneath that first. Sure you have "ticked the box" but wouldnt it be nice to cap your (almost certain IMO) return to SL in 2012 by winning the competition.

P.S dont see this as a dig at your club or take the usual RLfans practice of slagging me off, I have a lot of time for your club and the people who are involved with the organisation, not to mention your superb fans.

P.P.S as a Barrow lad I can only give my opinion on it: Since my local side got promoted from Champ 1, I feel very fortunate that Barrow now get to rub shoulders against sides like yourselves and Halifax (both former SL clubs), and while it feels odd having won the competition and now having to repeat the process I know that as Barrow Raiders stand it would have been almost impossible for us to compete in SL.

You are 100% correct, good post. Not only did we not win it last year, we've never won it since we got relegated and have just 2 Northern Rail Cups to show for it. The reason for the opinion we should go up is the criteria that's been laid down and the likes of Salford were given the nod on the promise of a new stadium that won't be ready before next round of licences anyway.

Re: Losing Interest : Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:48 am  

AJ Viking wrote:

You are 100% correct, good post. Not only did we not win it last year, we've never won it since we got relegated and have just 2 Northern Rail Cups to show for it. The reason for the opinion we should go up is the criteria that's been laid down and the likes of Salford were given the nod on the promise of a new stadium that won't be ready before next round of licences anyway.

And I pretty much agree with that opinion, the reason given was your finances and I'm not sure it was a good enough reason when you consider Celtic's financial trouble and you cant see Salford raking in the cash on the gates they get, it was all about location and I can understand their reasons for that.

My main point is some people are bemoaning the fact P and R is not in operation, yet if it was Widnes still wouldnt have been promoted.

Re: Losing Interest : Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:25 pm  

Seems I opened a bit of a flood gate on this issue viewtopic.php?f=35&t=451999&start=23

Seems I opened a bit of a flood gate on this issue viewtopic.php?f=35&t=451999&start=23

Re: Losing Interest : Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:54 pm  

marvwoodburn wrote:

You guys are hilarious, even if there WAS auto P and R then you guys wouldnt have got promoted, you didnt win the league last year. Before you go moaning about how your being wronged by not being in the big league maybe you should win the comp underneath that first. Sure you have "ticked the box" but wouldnt it be nice to cap your (almost certain IMO) return to SL in 2012 by winning the competition.

P.S dont see this as a dig at your club or take the usual RLfans practice of slagging me off, I have a lot of time for your club and the people who are involved with the organisation, not to mention your superb fans.

P.P.S as a Barrow lad I can only give my opinion on it: Since my local side got promoted from Champ 1, I feel very fortunate that Barrow now get to rub shoulders against sides like yourselves and Halifax (both former SL clubs), and while it feels odd having won the competition and now having to repeat the process I know that as Barrow Raiders stand it would have been almost impossible for us to compete in SL.

To be fair if there was automatic P+R we might have put a bit more focus on our first team rather than spending money to fulfil the franchise criteria.

Re: Losing Interest : Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:43 pm  

Alex J wrote:

To be fair if there was automatic P+R we might have put a bit more focus on our first team rather than spending money to fulfil the franchise criteria.

Yeah, we're not spending our cash on proven talent any more as much, we're improving the whole club and just getting in that way.

Re: Losing Interest : Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:22 pm  

marvwoodburn wrote:

And I pretty much agree with that opinion, the reason given was your finances and I'm not sure it was a good enough reason when you consider Celtic's financial trouble and you cant see Salford raking in the cash on the gates they get, it was all about location and I can understand their reasons for that.

My main point is some people are bemoaning the fact P and R is not in operation, yet if it was Widnes still wouldnt have been promoted.

I partly agree with you to be honest, as i think there should always be p and r.But i feel if their was promotion, we would have spent more on experienced players ,and not a youth set up.We are doing what the rfl are telling us.The salary cap has made it easier for all teams in the league.I think if our owner and yours could spend, we both would end up in superleague.Teams in superleague like quins,celtic,salford, would have suffered without help.

Re: Losing Interest : Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:05 pm  

marvwoodburn wrote:

You guys are hilarious, even if there WAS auto P and R then you guys wouldnt have got promoted, you didnt win the league last year. Before you go moaning about how your being wronged by not being in the big league maybe you should win the comp underneath that first. Sure you have "ticked the box" but wouldnt it be nice to cap your (almost certain IMO) return to SL in 2012 by winning the competition.

P.S dont see this as a dig at your club or take the usual RLfans practice of slagging me off, I have a lot of time for your club and the people who are involved with the organisation, not to mention your superb fans.

P.P.S as a Barrow lad I can only give my opinion on it: Since my local side got promoted from Champ 1, I feel very fortunate that Barrow now get to rub shoulders against sides like yourselves and Halifax (both former SL clubs), and while it feels odd having won the competition and now having to repeat the process I know that as Barrow Raiders stand it would have been almost impossible for us to compete in SL.

Widnes have built a squad around Home Grown Youth, Halifax and Barrow pump all the money they have into the first team.

That is why neither will get a franchise.