Re: Does this affect Widnes' push for SL status? : Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:57 pm  

RED LEAGUE wrote:

Ha ha ye im sure a club 30 miles away from manchester will cash in on new support from the area, i live in manchester, eveyone around here know salford and listen out for our scores every week, the amount of people ive had come over and say when you get that new stadium i'll start watching as im not going near the willows, people don't realise the rep the area around the willows has, its terrible its well known not just in salford but manchester and trafford too, when we move it will attract thousands of new fans who won't be worried and anxous to attent salford games.

P.s to poster above, salford city is bigger than manchester city, didnt you know that?

Or as in most cases for any side 'outside 'town'' they'll just say it's to hard to get to?

Re: Does this affect Widnes' push for SL status? : Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:18 am  

J20 wrote:

Or as in most cases for any side 'outside 'town'' they'll just say it's to hard to get to?

I'm thinking that as well. In a lot of traditional RL towns, the stadia is situated fairly central and for generations, fans have walked down to the game with their dads or sons etc. I just wonder if moving will affect the walk up. Also kids won't just be able to walk to the games. I remember watching Widnes in the late 80's early 90's as 9 or 10 year olds, we used to walk to the games with all our mates. Have no idea if kids are still doing that at Widnes, but I would have thought any out of town stadium stops kids from going unless they are going with parents or getting dropped off etc.

Obvioulsy success will have a major affect on crowds but, if Salford are not that successful, the crowds will probably pretty much stay as they are. Warrington are the club that everyone points to when saying about how a new stadium will double the crowds etc, but for every Warrington there are clubs like Widnes, Leigh or Doncaster. At the end of the day the shiny new stadium looks good to the RFL and a decent marketing tool for a while, but once the stadium has been open for a couple years, people are only really interested in the standard of rugby on the pitch.

Re: Does this affect Widnes' push for SL status? : Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:06 am  

The MEN is a great music venue but if you headlined with Betty n the Whippets I would guarantee many empty seats.
Interesting point of stadium location, I believe the LSV has helped attendances on wet days but reduced them for big games, due to walk up habits.
When the Humbles moved from Central Park it took years for gates to get back to what they were, you lose fans and it takes time for new fans to come through

Re: Does this affect Widnes' push for SL status? : Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:09 pm  

littlerich wrote:

I just don't see it happenning. 4,000 to 12,000? It just aint going to happen. I'll throw myself off Barton Bridge into the sewage plant if it does.

Warrington went from around 6k to 11k when they moved but they kept their stadium in the town and they have really moved up a gear in marketing RL. It helps when there is no football team right on your doorstep too.

Re: Does this affect Widnes' push for SL status? : Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:21 pm  

Chris B wrote:

Warrington went from around 6k to 11k when they moved but they kept their stadium in the town and they have really moved up a gear in marketing RL. It helps when there is no football team right on your doorstep too.

Indeed. However, I do think you have to play it right and be in the right division at the time. Look at Leigh. They never had the boom, because they've not been ran well enough in recent years. Warrington used the stadium as a springboard.

Wakefield and Cas, if their stadiums are not just a mirage this time, will have to play it right. Saints are clearly being held back by their stadium, if I were a Saints fan I wouldn't worry, their crowds should boom in the stadium. Salford, I honestly don't think the crowds are there anyway. Another pie in the sky RFL venture.

Re: Does this affect Widnes' push for SL status? : Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:39 am  

Chris Dalton wrote:

Indeed. However, I do think you have to play it right and be in the right division at the time. Look at Leigh. They never had the boom, because they've not been ran well enough in recent years. Warrington used the stadium as a springboard.

Wakefield and Cas, if their stadiums are not just a mirage this time, will have to play it right. Saints are clearly being held back by their stadium, if I were a Saints fan I wouldn't worry, their crowds should boom in the stadium. Salford, I honestly don't think the crowds are there anyway. Another pie in the sky RFL venture.

Apparently image is worth more than the actuality these days.

Re: Does this affect Widnes' push for SL status? : Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:36 am  

Alex J wrote:

Apparently image is worth more than the actuality these days.

is that like "on-field" matters being pushed to the sidelines? Yep - you're right. It's all bollax isn't it?

Re: Does this affect Widnes' push for SL status? : Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:26 pm  

Littlerich you know the rules, stop crying.

Re: Does this affect Widnes' push for SL status? : Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:29 pm  

-VIKINGMAN- wrote:

Littlerich you know the rules, stop crying.

No crying from me. I love this new system. Franchising is bloody fantastic. I can't wait to see Widnes in Super League. It's going to be AWESOME. I predict you'll finish the first season in ...................................















































































fifth.

Re: Does this affect Widnes' push for SL status? : Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:43 pm  

You bored mate?

tbh i cant be arsed with it all, if we get one then of course ill be overjoyed, until then we have yet another Championship season to look forward to. Are we happy with finishing fifth? are we fook but we cant change whats gone.

Up the Vikings.