Re: Yet more embarrassment for Widnes : Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:34 pm  

HARDMAN wrote:

When have Widnes fans ever said the system is unfair??

From the day your application was rejected last time,to the day before you were granted a licence this time around.

Re: Yet more embarrassment for Widnes : Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:44 pm  

hardly fair, We haven't once said that we'd prefer the franchise decision over P&R. I have seen numerous amounts of times that other widnes fans have openly said they wish for P&R to come back, But we don't make the rules. We have abided by the rules set and are just happy that we have been rewarded with a license. I would even go to the extent of shocking you and saying that licensing is unfair :O. At the end of the day, P&R provides competition, and Franchising provides stability. Unfair or not, there isn't one little thing we can do about it.

Re: Yet more embarrassment for Widnes : Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:54 pm  

WireWonder wrote:

From the day your application was rejected last time,to the day before you were granted a licence this time around.

Your boring now so jog on and be more constructive.Leigh where awful a few years ago and where going to be relegated from the Championship.Then got lucky with Donny going into administration.Things can change if get right coach and recruitment.We will have 1.65 million to spend and not £300,000.Even if Leigh got promoted they would not take over half the team into Superleague and that is a fact.Alot of good players in the championship want to be part time because have a great job outside rugby.Anyway i am sick of people coming on here who do not know about the Championship.If you read the positive posts from Championship clubs you will see most Leigh fans wishing Widnes the best of luck.

Re: Yet more embarrassment for Widnes : Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:57 am  

all i can say is GO HUDDERSFIELD! your bunch of 'superstars' didnt put up much of anything in the way of real opposition without Briers to hold their hands.

Re: Yet more embarrassment for Widnes : Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:56 am  

WireWonder wrote:

2 disasterous showings against 'mighty' Leigh and a home defeat to that huge team Hunslet show everyone that Widnes should have their SL licence revoked. If these sort of sides can see off them easily,imagine what the big clubs like Warrington will do to them?

Widnes are already booked in for the wooden spoon throughout their 3 year stay in SL.

I'm sure the hapless 'Vikings' fans will say they will have the money to get better players,but they aren't a big enough club to attract big names.

Letting this current garbage Widnes side in with the big boys like Wire,Saints,Wigan etc makes a mockery of our sport. Get shut of this licence system and bring back relegation and promotion.

Do you not think that Widnes will not make any signings before the start of next season?

You are an ignoramus,- look it up if you do not know what it means.

You do not have to be a club in a larger town to attract big names --- Jonathan Davies, Martin Offiah, Kurt Sorensen spring to mind immediately.

How have Warrington done on their last two outings?

Re: Yet more embarrassment for Widnes : Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:59 am  

Faxhali wrote: Lockyer was asked to come to widnes but will not come out of retirement, and says he does not want to travel with his youngster in tow. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 86,00.html They are already trying to build for the future, And as it stands right now they are guarenteed one in SL for 3 years, Can anyone else in SL claim the same right now ?. NO !!!! Good post. Everyone in the civilised world, and even in some parts of Warrington realise that, with a salary cap of £1.6 millions, Widnes will have a far better team in 2012.

Faxhali wrote: Lockyer was asked to come to widnes but will not come out of retirement, and says he does not want to travel with his youngster in tow. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 86,00.html They are already trying to build for the future, And as it stands right now they are guarenteed one in SL for 3 years, Can anyone else in SL claim the same right now ?. NO !!!! Good post. Everyone in the civilised world, and even in some parts of Warrington realise that, with a salary cap of £1.6 millions, Widnes will have a far better team in 2012.

Re: Yet more embarrassment for Widnes : Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:16 am  

WireWonder wrote:

He's got a point,you know.

Widnes fans have spent the last 3 years moaning to anyone who would listen that the system was 'unfair' etc. Now they have a favourable decision they see nothing wrong with it.

Most Widnes fans believe that promotion a relegation should come back, subject to certain basic requirements. When Widnes -- who had been the most successful club in the past two decades -- were denied entry to SL in favour of clubs such as Oldham, Workington, and Warrington, many of the game's pundits were disappointed. When they did get in for three years they were removed to make way for Catalans, and did not get relegated.

The RFL brought in the licensing system and insisted on certain criteria to get into SL and were prepared to exclude clubs who did not meet that criteria, and clubs had to live with that. That is why Warrington now play at the Halliwell Jones Stadium and not Wilderspool.

Widnes met the criteria and have gained a licence.

Two Challenge Cup wins, even back to back ones, still do not make Warrington as big a club than some of the others outside SL, who have more knowledgeable supporters [if you are an example of a Warrington Supporter] and I will instance Halifax, Leigh, Featherstone, and Swinton.

Re: Yet more embarrassment for Widnes : Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:24 am  

Old Viking wrote:

Do you not think that Widnes will not make any signings before the start of next season?

You are an ignoramus,- look it up if you do not know what it means.

You do not have to be a club in a larger town to attract big names --- Jonathan Davies, Martin Offiah, Kurt Sorensen spring to mind immediately.

How have Warrington done on their last two outings?

When Widnes were acquiring those sort of players in the late 80s they did it by spending money they didn't have. That's why we regard the success Widnes had back then as false.

What happened when your financial difficulties kicked in shortly after and you had to get rid of all those players? As a club you sunk without trace.

I stand by what i said,even in Super League Widnes will seriously struggle to attract big name,quality players. An over the hill Lockyer has already binned you off.

Re: Yet more embarrassment for Widnes : Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:26 am  

Old Viking wrote:

Most Widnes fans believe that promotion a relegation should come back, subject to certain basic requirements. When Widnes -- who had been the most successful club in the past two decades -- were denied entry to SL in favour of clubs such as Oldham, Workington, and Warrington, many of the game's pundits were disappointed. When they did get in for three years they were removed to make way for Catalans, and did not get relegated.

The RFL brought in the licensing system and insisted on certain criteria to get into SL and were prepared to exclude clubs who did not meet that criteria, and clubs had to live with that. That is why Warrington now play at the Halliwell Jones Stadium and not Wilderspool.

Widnes met the criteria and have gained a licence.

Two Challenge Cup wins, even back to back ones, still do not make Warrington as big a club than some of the others outside SL, who have more knowledgeable supporters [if you are an example of a Warrington Supporter] and I will instance Halifax, Leigh, Featherstone, and Swinton.

Apart from Wigan,name me any clubs in England that are bigger than the mighty Wire.

Re: Yet more embarrassment for Widnes : Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:52 am  

WireWonder wrote:

Apart from Wigan,name me any clubs in England that are bigger than the mighty Wire.

All of them, in my eyes.