Re: Danny Hulme : Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:01 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

I've played against craven and honestly have no idea how he's made it this far.

Some players develop later and Craven played half all his youth yet excels at FB fantastically tuning into the line and is a good finisher.

The fact the lad at 18/19 has never looked out of place in the Championship and often been one of our best players says enough tbh.

Re: Danny Hulme : Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:25 pm  

The Lizard wrote:

Whereas you've made it onto RLFANS.....

Rugby was never a career option for me, I can make far more money doing other things.

I also was never good enough to make it, I didn't suggest I was. I was just shocked when I found out that he had, that's all. It's not that long ago that I played against him and there were definitely better players around.

Re: Danny Hulme : Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:56 pm  

Well said Chris.

I think some of the retained players are getting a lot of undeserved stick lately based soley on those not staying, even if they are a completely different position. Everytime talk of someone not staying for example Dave Allen gets flagged off and it's just not fully justified.

I made the point on TIW that Widnes fans seem to (and is fair enough) appreciate a grafter more than a skilled player, especially in the pack. Allen breaks the line probably more than any of our other forwards and also had the best 'skill set' by a fair distance right now.

We all love Varks because he runs straight and hard usually attracting a few tacklers, yet Allen doesn't do that and gets slated but his size won't allow as he's not a prop! So Allen runs the lines often behind the ruck and makes yards that way. Tbh I'd love to see his stats as I bet they show him in a much better light!

Re: Danny Hulme : Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:00 pm  

J20 wrote:

Some players develop later and Craven played half all his youth yet excels at FB fantastically tuning into the line and is a good finisher.

The fact the lad at 18/19 has never looked out of place in the Championship and often been one of our best players says enough tbh.

He was a half when I played against him. Granted I've only seen him play as couple of times so can't really judge on how good he is now. The point I was trying to make that I was shocked he had made it judging from when I had played against him in the past and that Hulme looked a better option from what I had known. I think my post was a little misunderstood.

Re: Danny Hulme : Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:07 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

He was a half when I played against him. Granted I've only seen him play as couple of times so can't really judge on how good he is now. The point I was trying to make that I was shocked he had made it judging from when I had played against him in the past and that Hulme looked a better option from what I had known. I think my post was a little misunderstood.

I played against Andy Farrell and knew a guy who was better than him at 16.Guess what he did not make it but Faz was GB captain.Some people talk some toilet on here. Who cares you played against him and when did you play against him and who are you?

Re: Danny Hulme : Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:10 pm  

OFFTHECUFF wrote:

I played against Andy Farrell and knew a guy who was better than him at 16.Guess what he did not make it but Faz was GB captain.Some people talk some toilet on here. Who cares you played against him and when did you play against him and who are you?

You're completely misunderstanding me but never mind.

You obviously didn't read back, I've never once stated that I wanted nor had the ability to ever make it is a rugby player which is what you seem to be suggesting from the 'who are you?' part. Guess what this is a forum and do you know what people do on forums? They post their opinions.

Re: Danny Hulme : Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:18 pm  

Hulmey has made some mistakes a fullack but its not his natural position and despite this at times hes been devestating. He's only 20 and from what i heard he is gutted about the decision. I've heard rumours Varks wasn't even approached with a contract which he was disappointed about. 2 very good players and yet another decision which has shocked the majority of fans.

Apparently there are no marquee signings lined up and we have the majority of the salary cap left imo with only 8/9 players left to sign. I think a lot of explaining is to be done by the club to the fans who signed up for the VStronghold. An article the other week stated we were planning on spending around £1.5m, i can see us going no where near it.

We have retained some good players and we have Craven and Owens coming through, however Hulmey is the young player of the year and Varks was 3rd player of the year and we release them and retain the likes of Allen and Coyle who i really don't rate. I don't care what peoples opinions are on that, they have been ok this year but nothing shouts out to get them a SL contract.

Re: Danny Hulme : Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:22 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

You're completely misunderstanding me but never mind.

You obviously didn't read back, I've never once stated that I wanted nor had the ability to ever make it is a rugby player which is what you seem to be suggesting from the 'who are you?' part. Guess what this is a forum and do you know what people do on forums? They post their opinions.

Yes a opinion and Craven is a good one.

Re: Danny Hulme : Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:26 pm  

OFFTHECUFF wrote:

Yes a opinion and Craven is a good one.

Fair enough, why didn't you just say that in the first place instead of being confrontational for no apparent reason. What you would have found if you did was I would have said okay, it's over a year since I played against him, he may have developed more and you have much more of a chance to see this than I do.

Re: Danny Hulme : Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:31 pm  

In fairness Viva bar his undoubted commitment and work ethic would about Varkulis shouts out give him a SL deal?