Re: Sack Betts and Cullen : Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:48 pm  

I have tried to hold my own council since friday, and i realise its a bit pointless, but i would just like ot say i think Paddy, GSF and The Cuffster have each nailed my own feelings.
never mind 'dare to dream' the club moto should be 'win or die trying!'

Re: Sack Betts and Cullen : Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:24 pm  

chins up you will come good sometime,but hey who put 38 against the worst saints side since 1996 but then look what happens whats the saying "another day another game"what do you think of the stadium?

Re: Sack Betts and Cullen : Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:31 pm  

Firstly, I'm a Warrington supporter of over 45 years. In the past I have disliked Widnes RL -either because they were successful or had Jim Mills or both.
Whilst it's undeniably true that you haven't got the best squad of players, I'm not sure any team should be taking the sort of beatings you have so far. It's not good for Super League. I only hope that Paul Cullen doesn't have the same unhappy ending he had with us. He is a decent bloke.

Re: Sack Betts and Cullen : Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:49 pm  

Brian Brady's Beer Belly wrote:

Firstly, I'm a Warrington supporter of over 45 years. In the past I have disliked Widnes RL -either because they were successful or had Jim Mills or both.
Whilst it's undeniably true that you haven't got the best squad of players, I'm not sure any team should be taking the sort of beatings you have so far. It's not good for Super League. I only hope that Paul Cullen doesn't have the same unhappy ending he had with us. He is a decent bloke.

He may be a decent bloke but is no good as a coach otherwise wire wouldn't have moved him on

Re: Sack Betts and Cullen : Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:10 am  

Brian Brady's Beer Belly wrote:

Firstly, I'm a Warrington supporter of over 45 years. In the past I have disliked Widnes RL -either because they were successful or had Jim Mills or both.
Whilst it's undeniably true that you haven't got the best squad of players, I'm not sure any team should be taking the sort of beatings you have so far. It's not good for Super League. I only hope that Paul Cullen doesn't have the same unhappy ending he had with us. He is a decent bloke.

You related to Cullen. Joking aside i do not know him personally but i do know a few who do and they think he is a knob.

Re: Sack Betts and Cullen : Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:26 am  

So, its 10:30 on Monday now and still no stronghold text saying Betts and Cullen have gone and a new age of hope and glory has dawned.

Re: Sack Betts and Cullen : Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:05 pm  

Denis Betts was a fine Rugby League player but isnt a good enough coach. Steve O'Connor has to bite the bullet now and sack him and Paul Cullen. Brian Noble as other people have said should be appointed and at least there would be some improvements that will give the Widnes fans something to cling on to. I wanted Noble on a short term contract at Saints until the end of the season when Nathan Brown comes in. He is a dam fine coach is Noble.

Re: Sack Betts and Cullen : Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:33 pm  

Betts is possible a good number 2 man, but get in someone with a lot more experience and drive about themself and the game. Then Widnes can hopefully see out the first year with glimmers of what is possible and passion (like the CC game) then move on to the second year of the franchise and have a really honest hit-up at the league.

Re: Sack Betts and Cullen : Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:15 pm  

Widnes are in a mess. That is obvious from the results.
Whether the squad is good enough or not is not the point.
All players were either recruited or retained by Betts and Cullen. They are the people in charge of the squad and the current state of the results is their responsibility.
They need to be replaced. Whether others need to go would be a decision for the new men who will run the place.
A complete clear out may be the best thing.
Noble is a clear favourite amongst fans on here which is understandable after his time with Crusaders. Six weeks prior to the season he'd only 8 players but still managed to get them to 8th in the league.
However, it may be too late to get Nobby. He's involved in the Caisley move to take over the Bulls.
Widnes are now in such a mess it may well be a difficult to sign a top quality coach as it was to sign top quality players.
I just wish you the very best of luck as you are going to need it.

Re: Sack Betts and Cullen : Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:12 pm  

Russel wrote:

He may be a decent bloke but is no good as a coach otherwise wire wouldn't have moved him on

Whitehaven ?