: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:34 am  

rovers wrote:

What do you mean not going to bite, i was returning a arrogant "go to fev if you have no ambition" comment, we have the same ambition as Widnes, that being super league, we have plans for a 50 million development including new stadium on the 18 acres of land we own. We are not reliant on ONE money man. The remark i replyd to sums up to me why you lost Sun, your players and fans think your already in super league and a cut above teams like Rovers. YOU ARE NOT, be careful because like Halifax your arrogance will be your undoing

What so because of one comment you've come to the conclusion that the club believes we're better than anyone else and already in super league? I suggest u pull your head out of your booty and wake up. Oh and get that chip off your shoulder while you're at it.

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:14 am  

GetThemScallyWags wrote:

What so because of one comment you've come to the conclusion that the club believes we're better than anyone else and already in super league? I suggest u pull your head out of your booty and wake up. Oh and get that chip off your shoulder while you're at it.

Ignore it, they've just proved that there should be an IQ test before posting on't internet.

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:18 am  

"they" being whom?

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:37 am  

JAMIE86 wrote:

I think thats abit unfair to say, after all Widnes is not the best in the league
so what they have a tick for superleague but so will another club next year if widnes don't win the NRC again and who ever wins the grand final.

bitter talk

Sure your a Wire!

It's not bitter talk all saying is surely Widnes is a better club to be @ than Fev atm? Most likely challenging titles and most likley for SL, Wrong???

I like Fev but doubt they have the sort of money to bag all players linked with! Plus they aint got a money man but can build a 50mil complex? Yea ok! Fudned from same council who won't help Wakey build theres?

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:53 am  

The proposals for a new stadium at Fev is one of a self funded arrangement based on thus:-
Fev own a great deal of land. Developed into retail units on long leases (pledges are there - and eager, from big chains Asda, morrisson's etc) wanting to come on board as the area doesn't have such opportunities. Sports complexes are also to be built and leased out - again much with interest and eagerness from prospective partners. All would provide a regular income to rovers.
The leasing of the buildings and land would then release the capital for a 6-12k all/part seater modular stadium fit for purpose. All this without any need for local authority funding - such as Cas or Wakey. Fev are not reliant on one investor to bail them out or keep them afloat.

Nowt will happen fast. It never does. And yes, you are right - at the mo, Widnes are probably better placed than Fev are for SL. But more ambitious - no. No more, no less.

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:03 am  

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

The proposals for a new stadium at Fev is one of a self funded arrangement based on thus:-
Fev own a great deal of land. Developed into retail units on long leases (pledges are there - and eager, from big chains Asda, morrisson's etc) wanting to come on board as the area doesn't have such opportunities. Sports complexes are also to be built and leased out - again much with interest and eagerness from prospective partners. All would provide a regular income to rovers.
The leasing of the buildings and land would then release the capital for a 6-12k all/part seater modular stadium fit for purpose. All this without any need for local authority funding - such as Cas or Wakey. Fev are not reliant on one investor to bail them out or keep them afloat.

Nowt will happen fast. It never does. And yes, you are right - at the mo, Widnes are probably better placed than Fev are for SL. But more ambitious - no. No more, no less.

Ah right, cheers for info! Hope all goes through then! Have they just always had that land like?

AMBITION is a tough one! Look at Footy everyone talks about going to Citeh for their 'ambition' question what 'AMBITION' do they have any different to other clubs? Especially top4? To be the best club side in the World and a global brand???

Ambition ahs to be paired with realsim IMO and that's where Widnes would come out on top atm!

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:04 am  

[quote="J20"]Sure your a Wire!

It's not bitter talk all saying is surely Widnes is a better club to be @ than Fev atm? Most likely challenging titles and most likley for SL, Wrong???

You've got to remember its what goes on behind the scenes as wel as the potential of the club the player is playing for. Grayshon might not get on with coaching staff/ not been offered a deal by widnes ?? Who knows.

I just think that Fev arn't a bad club to be at thats all.

theres more to life than Widnes Vikings no matter what league you play in and like i said previous widnes have the first tick. So what!! so will a few others in a few years, widnes arn't going to win everything are they.

i just think you should not slate players who decide to leave.

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:09 am  

JAMIE86 wrote:

J20 wrote:

Sure your a Wire!

It's not bitter talk all saying is surely Widnes is a better club to be @ than Fev atm? Most likely challenging titles and most likley for SL, Wrong???

You've got to remember its what goes on behind the scenes as wel as the potential of the club the player is playing for. Grayshon might not get on with coaching staff/ not been offered a deal by widnes ?? Who knows.

I just think that Fev arn't a bad club to be at thats all.

theres more to life than Widnes Vikings no matter what league you play in and like i said previous widnes have the first tick. So what!! so will a few others in a few years, widnes arn't going to win everything are they.

i just think you should not slate players who decide to leave.

Am not slating players who won't to go in slightest! Plus we may not even want to keep Grayshon for all we know!

I was discussing the ambition / bigger club bit, not players!

Like I wouldn't blame JD for going Leigh as he's one of best halfs in this league so deserves a 1st team spot etc!

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:13 am  

J20 wrote:

JAMIE86 wrote:

Am not slating players who won't to go in slightest! Plus we may not even want to keep Grayshon for all we know!

I was discussing the ambition / bigger club bit, not players!

Like I wouldn't blame JD for going Leigh as he's one of best halfs in this league so deserves a 1st team spot etc!

Ive noticed you also write some tosh on the trust in widnes board.

plus i think its funny you all seem to think that players leaving is a big rumour, seen a list of contracts my booty !!

I personally think Thacks is a better half back that JD he does better at 9.
Unsure over thacks future at widnes but if he doesn't sign for SL club he should stay put as should a few others. JD can leave for all i care.

: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:19 am  

J20 wrote:

Ah right, cheers for info! Hope all goes through then! Have they just always had that land like?

AMBITION is a tough one! Look at Footy everyone talks about going to Citeh for their 'ambition' question what 'AMBITION' do they have any different to other clubs? Especially top4? To be the best club side in the World and a global brand???

Ambition ahs to be paired with realsim IMO and that's where Widnes would come out on top atm!

OK last bit on this because i think we've done it to death - but there's the crux - the "at the moment" comment!
Ambition isn't in the here and now. It is future tense. And that's where Fev have plenty of ambition for the future. But it's slow sustainable growth. Not everything now that can't be sustained ad infinitim.
I would suggest that Fev and Widnes have similar aspirations. The difference being Widnes are at a stronger position than fev at the mo in terms of crowd numbers and facilities and potential for growth.
Should that deter a championship player signing for a rival, because of their aspiarations/starting point??? I wouldn't have thought so.


I'd rather talk about the match or the finish to this season tho. I wouldn't like to take bets on the eventual winner. And the team that finishes top has absolutely no guarantee of an easy ride this year.
I don't think Fax will now finish top. I have a feeling Barrow will. But any team place 1-6 would fancy their chances in the play-offs. And I was very sceptical about them on their inception. They've proved to be great.