: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:50 am  

But the Fax players will go out too? I understand what you're saying, but it's only an issue because we aren't playing well.

If you ever bump into Gary Connolly, ask him about the Wigan team of the early 90's, what they did re:drinking was unreal but went out on a Sunday and blew the other team away, therefore John Monie didn't have an issue with it.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:52 am  

Soldierboy wrote:

Nothing wrong socialising but they should think about non alcholic drinks.If they where really fit and playing to the standard of halifax and then i let them off.But we miles behind them and need some strict ways.

I am sorry i do not feel i 'own' the players. I also KNOW alot of players SL and NCL and they are entitled to nights out as is everyone else.

But i feel that them playing the way they are, they simply don't deserve a night out, PC was only in paper the other day saying he was cutting perks that the players have, surley this must mean nights out as well??

and like soilderboy states if they 1.fit, 2. good place in league. 3 playing well then do what they want but when they arn't its simply not acceptable and i hope PC and TOC give them the discipline they deserve !!

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:05 am  

Ok, it's all about opinions I suppose. Playing devils advacate, we're sitting 3rd in the league this weekend and into the semi finals of the Northern Rail Cup?

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:07 am  

AJ Viking wrote:

But the Fax players will go out too? I understand what you're saying, but it's only an issue because we aren't playing well.

If you ever bump into Gary Connolly, ask him about the Wigan team of the early 90's, what they did re:drinking was unreal but went out on a Sunday and blew the other team away, therefore John Monie didn't have an issue with it.

Yes mate they where a winning team so will get respect more.I played for army at football and semi pro when was younger.I know youngsters like to go out, like anybody else.But as i said they need start playing really well before i give them respect.If i was good enough i would have a drink once in awhile but i want to be superfit first.If i saw saints players out drinking i say fair play but i feel they need great results before going out gettting drunk.Just been a widnes fan is so painful it gets me angry they are crap and think they are so special.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:14 am  

[quote="Soldierboy"] Just been a widnes fan is so painful it gets me angry they are crap and think they are so special.[/quote]

you can say that again !!

and what bloody annoys me is that Ostick thinks he thats special he won't sign a contract for next year. But it seems he's the one who caused this on saturday night !!!!

To big for his boots and been playing crap 2!!

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:00 pm  

I think iv opened a can of worms here havent i

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:01 pm  

Jiffy Davies wrote:

I think iv opened a can of worms here havent i

So thats what they were drinking at the time. Down the town bars really have stooped low.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:37 pm  

Bertie Magoo's PA wrote:

So thats what they were drinking at the time. Down the town bars really have stooped low.

As far as I'm concerned it is unrealistic to expect players not to have a drink...

I don't know of any sports club that has a complete ban on drinking (although Spurs are considering it I think) and most normally allow it provided it is on a certain night.. most normally nights after matches or nights before 'days off'. In this case both boxes are being ticked with no training on Sunday morning and with it following the York game. By doing this and putting in place these guidelines they hope to stop players from drinking on nights that might 'affect' their performance. I can't see drink being the reason for the current problems, there seems to be plenty of other reasons for it.
As someone mentioned on here it gives players a chance to unwind. Plus from the sounds of things it sounds like if it hadn't gone so wrong then maybe it might have actually benefitted us as it sounds like Webster and Smith were both out together..
No-one knows exactly what happened the story changes depending on the poster... there are various rumours that a mass brawl started between the players (unliklely) or (more reasonably) that it was between two players (not Smith and Webster) and that others simply became involved in trying to seperate the two parties. In a crowded room this could look like a massive scuffle.
Plus you also have the problem of vexed up people wanting their story to sound more impressive and earn kudos by exaggerating the truth.

I think the two people will be dealt with internally and the matter will be put to bed.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:53 pm  

In EnemyTerritory wrote:

As far as I'm concerned it is unrealistic to expect players not to have a drink...

I don't know of any sports club that has a complete ban on drinking (although Spurs are considering it I think) and most normally allow it provided it is on a certain night.. most normally nights after matches or nights before 'days off'. In this case both boxes are being ticked with no training on Sunday morning and with it following the York game. By doing this and putting in place these guidelines they hope to stop players from drinking on nights that might 'affect' their performance. I can't see drink being the reason for the current problems, there seems to be plenty of other reasons for it.
As someone mentioned on here it gives players a chance to unwind. Plus from the sounds of things it sounds like if it hadn't gone so wrong then maybe it might have actually benefitted us as it sounds like Webster and Smith were both out together..
No-one knows exactly what happened the story changes depending on the poster... there are various rumours that a mass brawl started between the players (unliklely) or (more reasonably) that it was between two players (not Smith and Webster) and that others simply became involved in trying to seperate the two parties. In a crowded room this could look like a massive scuffle.
Plus you also have the problem of vexed up people wanting their story to sound more impressive and earn kudos by exaggerating the truth.

I think the two people will be dealt with internally and the matter will be put to bed.

Post of the day mate.

If this is all true then shame on those involved, but lets leave it to the club to sort out. ATM it is a case of 'he said she said' and if untrue they could be deemed as 'slander and libelous'. Lets just see what unfolds.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:03 pm  

Fingerposts Finest wrote:

makes a change the players fighting in a bar.........................in halifax it's the coach that does it