: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:57 pm  

richardviking wrote:

Why? They have no divine right to be safe. They recruited poorly.

Yes, Widnes have no divine right to win the league, but I'm confident that we're much more equipped to win the league than most other sides, albeit of a cap reduction.

I'm pretty sure that many teams will operate well below the cap next term.

I know Leigh have no right to be safe, but my worry is that further balancing this league will leave us in a very fragile position. Leigh are going through a mere lull and if they were allowed to spend a bit more to get out of it they would do. They have made a hash of things and deserve to be in trouble but we're in dangerous territory here. We could easily be a team struggling at the bottom.

Why shouldn't we be able to spend more if we make more money? I'm not asking for the ability to buy the league outright, just the ability for stronger clubs to have some security.

: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:32 pm  

I'm sure we will, Chris. As I've pointed out, at least half of the league will spend considerably less than us.

: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:54 pm  

Chris Dalton wrote:

I know Leigh have no right to be safe, but my worry is that further balancing this league will leave us in a very fragile position. Leigh are going through a mere lull and if they were allowed to spend a bit more to get out of it they would do. They have made a hash of things and deserve to be in trouble but we're in dangerous territory here. We could easily be a team struggling at the bottom.

Why shouldn't we be able to spend more if we make more money? I'm not asking for the ability to buy the league outright, just the ability for stronger clubs to have some security.

Not sure if the 40% thing works but that will obv aide us! And maybe still keep Batley & Co behind regardless! Maybe they can only afford 200k? etc.

: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:44 pm  

I think SOC will just steady the ship in preparation for your promotion in 2012. It would be ludicrous if you continued as you are now and didn't get a license. I can't see any reason why you shouldn't get the nod. I know the RFL seem to be a bit potty at times but common sense should prevail in 2012. The problems will occur for those clubs left in the Championships and how we can make them viable comps in their own right instead of hanging onto the faint promise of SL membership. Fans have to have the perception that it is a good comp and worth paying £14 to go and watch.

: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:21 pm  

littlerich wrote:

I think SOC will just steady the ship in preparation for your promotion in 2012. It would be ludicrous if you continued as you are now and didn't get a license. I can't see any reason why you shouldn't get the nod. I know the RFL seem to be a bit potty at times but common sense should prevail in 2012. The problems will occur for those clubs left in the Championships and how we can make them viable comps in their own right instead of hanging onto the faint promise of SL membership. Fans have to have the perception that it is a good comp and worth paying £14 to go and watch.

Bored of you sucking up.

: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:49 pm  

richardviking wrote:

I'm sure we will, Chris. As I've pointed out, at least half of the league will spend considerably less than us.

I hope you are right. Your optimism is certainly a better attitude than mine, I wish I shared it right now.

Hopefully all will pan out fine. If we're mid table next season, we should still be favourites for the license.

: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:34 pm  

Thing is though the franchise process looks at way more than on field competitiveness, how many boxes does it tick exactly? Barring an utter disaster with the club (which we're used to), there's every chance we'll remain competitive.

In Cullen and the O'Connors we've got the best combination of rugby and business brains this club has ever had. We should have faith in their ability to make us successful in every way.

Our biggest worry should be the t1ts at Red Hall.

: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:05 pm  

Apparently ' dual registration ' players will not count on the cap

So you could have say Hunslet with 6/7 Leeds ' loanees ' still operating on 100 K

Basically if you agree to be a ' feeder ' club you get a SC excemption

Good old RFL eh

: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:14 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Apparently ' dual registration ' players will not count on the cap

So you could have say Hunslet with 6/7 Leeds ' loanees ' still operating on 100 K

Basically if you agree to be a ' feeder ' club you get a SC excemption

Good old RFL eh

Yeap. Feeder clubs from clubs with a 130 yr history. Greedy, selfish c***s.

: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:30 pm  

it appears the RFL want to completely wipe all non stupor league professional rugby off the map,

as for the dual registration thing, any coincidence that leeds have made an agreement with whitehaven????