: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:10 pm  

Best and most succesful by what means though? And surelt success depends on what the Chairman's aims actually are!

: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:25 am  

J20 wrote:

Best and most succesful by what means though? And surelt success depends on what the Chairman's aims actually are!

Eh???????????

I will have a go at deciphering this.

By what means is clear enough. The current expenditure is sustainable as shown from the club accounts published and the RFL are happy with the club accounts. Non Item!

The second point, do you mean if a club chairman is working towards the development of the club or as I suspect you are implying, building a legacy for himself. If thats his plan he's gonna have to stick around a lot longer than any of us expect or he himself has stated. It takes a lot in a game as fickle as ours to build a legacy.

Whatever people opinions of him are, he's been a breath of fresh air in the club and has raised the profile of the game in the area. Would we all not forgive our chairmans foibles and occasional gaffs for more publicity?

: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:13 am  

J20 wrote:

Best and most succesful by what means though? And surelt success depends on what the Chairman's aims actually are!

Yaawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Next please with inane drivel.

: Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:03 am  

IS THIS THREAD STILL GOING .......................................

: Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:11 am  

Zimbo wrote:

Yaawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Next please with inane drivel.

I actually think its a valid point. I would think that whilst its nice to win the odd thing at this level, what all the top Championship clubs are aiming for is a SL licence. So by labelling Des as more successful, then it very much remains to be seen. I would have thought that if Des wants a licence for Barra, then he should have upgraded the floodlights no questions asked, and also built a recognised and extensive youth development structure. All those sort of things cost money and although Des may or may not be impessing some with the strength of the Barrow 1st team, there are a lot of other things Des could be spending money on, but it doesn't appear that he's willing to do that. Without Steve O'Connor at Widnes, it would be very doubtful that we would have been running an u16's u18's and u21's, but he's been prepared to make the investment as well as ensuring we've been competitive on the pitch. He's also made a heavy investment to a stadium that was already good enough for SL. Everything about SO'C says professionalism - Dessie boy gives the impression hes a flash harry and no-one outside Barrow is that impressed by him.

: Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:52 pm  

vikings 4 ever wrote:

I actually think its a valid point. I would think that whilst its nice to win the odd thing at this level, what all the top Championship clubs are aiming for is a SL licence. So by labelling Des as more successful, then it very much remains to be seen. I would have thought that if Des wants a licence for Barra, then he should have upgraded the floodlights no questions asked, and also built a recognised and extensive youth development structure. All those sort of things cost money and although Des may or may not be impessing some with the strength of the Barrow 1st team, there are a lot of other things Des could be spending money on, but it doesn't appear that he's willing to do that. Without Steve O'Connor at Widnes, it would be very doubtful that we would have been running an u16's u18's and u21's, but he's been prepared to make the investment as well as ensuring we've been competitive on the pitch. He's also made a heavy investment to a stadium that was already good enough for SL. Everything about SO'C says professionalism - Dessie boy gives the impression hes a flash harry and no-one outside Barrow is that impressed by him.

Got to agree, as a fax fan we'd love somebody with money like o'connor or des. However i think most neutrals would take o'connor everyday of the week as he seems to go queitly about his business rather than be the centre of attention.

: Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:46 pm  

vikings 4 ever wrote:

I actually think its a valid point. I would think that whilst its nice to win the odd thing at this level, what all the top Championship clubs are aiming for is a SL licence. So by labelling Des as more successful, then it very much remains to be seen. I would have thought that if Des wants a licence for Barra, then he should have upgraded the floodlights no questions asked, and also built a recognised and extensive youth development structure. All those sort of things cost money and although Des may or may not be impessing some with the strength of the Barrow 1st team, there are a lot of other things Des could be spending money on, but it doesn't appear that he's willing to do that. Without Steve O'Connor at Widnes, it would be very doubtful that we would have been running an u16's u18's and u21's, but he's been prepared to make the investment as well as ensuring we've been competitive on the pitch. He's also made a heavy investment to a stadium that was already good enough for SL. Everything about SO'C says professionalism - Dessie boy gives the impression hes a flash harry and no-one outside Barrow is that impressed by him.

Some good points there V4E.

SOC spent hundreds of thousands of pounds on the stadium - the facilities in the north stand (physio area, player meeting rooms, weights room etc.) are superb and a testament to the fact that he wants a professional set-up.

: Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:27 pm  

That's what I was getting at yes lads!

Is success building a team or building a club? As the RFL seems intent on maiing the Championship a feeder league currently i'd say building a club for a SL licence atm would be the best option!

: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:15 pm  

Steve Fox wrote:

Some good points there V4E.

SOC spent hundreds of thousands of pounds on the stadium - the facilities in the north stand (physio area, player meeting rooms, weights room etc.) are superb and a testament to the fact that he wants a professional set-up.

Just a pity the RFL didn't visit those upgraded facilities when they went round the club doing their rating on the stadium in the ' license process', and I ain't joking!

: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:34 pm  

J20 wrote:

That's what I was getting at yes lads!

Is success building a team or building a club? As the RFL seems intent on maiing the Championship a feeder league currently i'd say building a club for a SL licence atm would be the best option!

One goes with the other in the long run.