Re: what a shame : Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:12 pm  

peawapp wrote:

Bloody Hell let's be honest aren't the Widnes Fans used to getting beat at the Sports village by now cos it certainly isn't the first time is it.

Haha I did say on the way out .... still never won a match here! (not counting a friendly with Swinton!)

Did the Wigan walk a few mins before the end so diddnt see the trouble. Its all very sad, after watching the vids above and it does seem a very large minority! Hope we dont get punished too badly

Re: what a shame : Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:46 pm  

The punishment should land firmly on the perpetrators.
It is a criminal offence to encroach onto a pitch and I do hope that those identified will be prosecuted.
If found guilty they will then have a criminal record.
That would be real punishment IMO and a reminder to anyone else thinking about doing the same that the consequencies will be very severe.

Re: what a shame : Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:20 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

The punishment should land firmly on the perpetrators.
It is a criminal offence to encroach onto a pitch and I do hope that those identified will be prosecuted.
If found guilty they will then have a criminal record.
That would be real punishment IMO and a reminder to anyone else thinking about doing the same that the consequencies will be very severe.

That would be just gravy. I would love it.

This has been depressing me all day since it happened. A few knobheads and all of a sudden we're in the gutter, and I can't argue with it because what those people did was totally wrong. All credit to all those especially Cas fans who have not aimed at Widnes fans in general. I'm astonished the amount of people who haven't chosen to lay into us so far, as I would understand if they did.

Walked away yesterday feeling as negative as I ever have and I didn't even see the incidents as I left a minute early to beat traffic.

We can't punish them with bans, they don't care. They wont give one iota of care to the punishment the club is up for either. The people responsible will need to be punished elsewhere if we're going to really hold them accountable. I sincerely hope the police get involved.

Re: what a shame : Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:24 pm  

What would be good is if after Widnes face their inevitable fine they could collectively sue anyone caught for wrongdoing.

Re: what a shame : Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:48 pm  

Widnes (and Widnes fans) are doing a lot to identify these idiots and issue bans and hopefully criminal proceedings. I've seen via twitter a lot of people sending pictures and videos to GMP. Keep them coming because we don't want them in our game.

Re: what a shame : Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:04 pm  

Chris Dalton wrote:

All credit to all those especially Cas fans who have not aimed at Widnes fans in general. I'm astonished the amount of people who haven't chosen to lay into us so far, as I would understand if they did.

Chris. I think the majority of rugby fans, know that this is not the whole of the Widnes fan based. The prompt condemnation from your own ranks to testimony to this and perhaps why there is such widespread agreement on this point. Some people have pointed out, with some justification it would appear, that some of those involved were NOT bored football supports on a tanked up day out and the only things that could be criticised would be if this become the "party line". Rugby doesnt need these idiot, Widnes Vikings RLFC doesnt need these idiot. Hopefully a way can be found of starting to alienate them.

Re: what a shame : Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:58 pm  

asmadasa wrote:

Not good enough and people need identifying, prosecuting and banning! This isn't the first time unfortunately.....

Name shame and ban the scum from every ground and game for life. I feel sorry for the genuine widnes fans who were not involved and had to watch that.

Re: what a shame : Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:59 pm  

I was thinking about this. If the Widnes club was fined for damage to reputation of the game etc. Could Widnes then take civil action against those fans to recoup the costs of any fine.

I'm not one to support litigation, but with so many fans identified. Lets say you can name 100 of them.

If the fine on Widnes was say £50,000

Then surely any civil court would impose say a £500 damages on each individual to compensate the club.

Or the RFL could impose a fine, reducing it for every fan taken to court by the Widnes club. The club can then decided whether it's worth the cost of recouping the money. Lets face it with the impact on sponsors they could get even more out of these scum.

I'm sure some will meet criminal proceedings but nothing to stop Widnes latching onto that and getting some damages. Leaving the blame, cost and punishment were it truely should lie, with the pondscum that soiled the clubs name.

Re: what a shame : Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:00 pm  

Wire Yed wrote:

What would be good is if after Widnes face their inevitable fine they could collectively sue anyone caught for wrongdoing.

Gets my vote

Re: what a shame : Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:06 pm  

Wire Yed wrote:

What would be good is if after Widnes face their inevitable fine they could collectively sue anyone caught for wrongdoing.

Sorry totally missed this post.

Good thinking that man.