Re: Wakefield - one week today : Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:54 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

By the way, on the subject of the fish bar, what on earth is a "wet" and what the heck is a "mixture"?

A 'wet' is pea juice thrown over your your chips. It is also known as 'pea wet'. A mixture is chips and mushy peas. I think it's only Widnes that uses these terms. I have never seen it anywhere else.

I believe they call chips and mushy peas an 'Irishman' in Crewe. So, I guess, everywhere has their own particular names for chippy food.

Re: Wakefield - one week today : Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:58 pm  

mwildcats wrote:

Lets also remember 2 of your 3 try's came from mistakes / luck in mathers not booting ball out and the charge down other than that, there wasn't much created.
I thought Widnes had a tall imposing pack but their tactics were a bit old school.. leading with elbows, head high tackles. I think Widnes like ourselves will be much better later in the season when they have gelled and have their better players in.

Good Luck for rest of the season..

All tries come from mistakes or luck... Every try relies on someone not doing their job by missing a tackle or not being in the right place positionally. For example, one of our players rushed out the line for Mathers' try leaving a gaping hole.
As for our tactics being a bit old school, I've watched the game back and our 'tactics' are nothing out of the ordinary that you don't see in any other SL game. I must have missed all these other super league games where there isn't a single penalty for a high tackle. Let alone two or three.
I could throw your way that on at least six occasions the Wakefield player stepped forward off his mark and should have been penalised for it but didn't.

Re: Wakefield - one week today : Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:00 pm  

Dr Chim Richalds wrote:

All tries come from mistakes or luck... Every try relies on someone not doing their job by missing a tackle or not being in the right place positionally. For example, one of our players rushed out the line for Mathers' try leaving a gaping hole.
As for our tactics being a bit old school, I've watched the game back and our 'tactics' are nothing out of the ordinary that you don't see in any other SL game. I must have missed all these other super league games where there isn't a single penalty for a high tackle. Let alone two or three.
I could throw your way that on at least six occasions the Wakefield player stepped forward off his mark and should have been penalised for it but didn't.

They were getting away with a lot of holding down, and slowing the play-the-ball, all night too. I don't suppose they would have noticed that though

Re: Wakefield - one week today : Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:58 pm  

cdc wrote:

its a shame the rfl could not appoint a ref that was not from the wakefield district and a well noted wakefield fan . I fined this very strange by the rfl the second half wakefield got nine penalty s on the bounce which change the game .

Thaler is a Cas fan, which in our book makes him the anti Christ!!!
One win out of three games he reffed last year, zero from five the year before.
You lost fairly and squarely, talking clap trap won't change that.

Re: Wakefield - one week today : Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:19 pm  

Dr Chim Richalds wrote:

What a wonderfully typical one sided view of the game.
I think if Widnes had shared the same luxury as Wakefield in having both of our first choice halves in the game then the scoreline could have been strongly in our favour by HT. From what's been seen of Watts he adds a bit of guile into the attacking line and I think we would have converted a bit more of the pressure.

I also think one of the refereeing decisions went your way when it so easily could have come down in our favour and there were two clear opportunities for us to score were we simply over-ran the ball. Whilst the scoreline looks impressive in the end, lets remember that at least two scores came whilst we were down to 12 men also.
So as for wishing us well. I will do the same to you. You may well need it yet.


It was a bit of a make-do side really with Clarke coming in at SH and then White moving to this position removing our ability to interchange the hooker.

As for the ref... if your side keep up the gesturing to try and get opposition players sent off you may well become one of the least liked sides in the league.

I thought my post was fair, I certainly didn't need to add another fir the sake of balance.
All teams have injuries it's about having a squad that copes as best as it can in those circumstances, and I'm sure at some point in the season you will beat a team suffering similarly, it's the nature of the game.
I've just watched the game back on sky plus and for you to moan about conceding two tries while down to 12 men is laughable.
How it took 71 minutes for a widnes player, (take your pick from Moore, pickersgill and cross for high shots, Moore and ah van for profesional fouls) to receive any kind of reprimand, and then for it only to be descent is a joke and showed the ref up, and perversely only highlighted what many wakey fans expected, a one sided refereeing performance.
As I said you lost in the second half because you tired badly and a fitter better side took full advantage, for you to think otherwise doesn't reflect well on you.
As for the wakey fans shouting for widnes players to be sent off, watch the game back and ask yourself I'd the boot was on the foot and the red was continually doing nish, wouldn't you be tempted to acclaim the same? I'm sure the answer would be in the affirmative.

Re: Wakefield - one week today : Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:35 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

Thaler is a Cas fan, which in our book makes him the anti Christ!!!
One win out of three games he reffed last year, zero from five the year before.
You lost fairly and squarely, talking clap trap won't change that.

You sure about that, it's not what I hear but hell you may know more than me on this one.

I actually think we do OK with Ben in charge,

Re: Wakefield - one week today : Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:42 pm  

cdc wrote:

its a shame the rfl could not appoint a ref that was not from the wakefield district and a well noted wakefield fan . I fined this very strange by the rfl the second half wakefield got nine penalty s on the bounce which change the game .

As Testy said that's because we were disciplined and you were not. Cross in particular was a liability and pretty much threw the game and that was not Ben Thalers fault. I agree that perhaps another ref would have been more sensible if for no other reason than to stop this kind of bickering.

That said the result would still be 9 penalties to nil, however Ganson for one would have brandished the yellow sooner than Thaler especially as it was a telly game.

There is no denying your indiscipline helped us win the game but the try's that won it still took some scoring.

On a positive, Frank Winterstien looks to be reaching his potential which is good to see, always liked him when he was with us.

Re: Wakefield - one week today : Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:55 pm  

I think fitness let Widnes down and that is why gave silly penalties away.Bad kicking game and lack of creativity at halfback.Clarke is not a scrumhalf.

Re: Wakefield - one week today : Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:48 pm  

cdc wrote:

its a shame the rfl could not appoint a ref that was not from the wakefield district and a well noted wakefield fan . I fined this very strange by the rfl the second half wakefield got nine penalty s on the bounce which change the game .

This suggests that Widnes need to sort their discipline out.

Re: Wakefield - one week today : Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:58 pm  

Fitness and stamina showed in the last quarter and thats why the bad tackles came in from Widnes.Watch anygame like that and its what happens when the opposition start to feel the heat and limbs start to hurt.