: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:28 pm  

SNOT-HIM08 wrote:

I was asking about championship one or is it the same cap as championship

Sorry! lol. Erm no clue would expect it to be lower, but saying that for past few seasons Oldham have outbid quite a few NL1 sides for players so don't know!

You worrying for the leythers?

: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:50 pm  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

Not the Varks rumour again im suprised you havnt rolled the Penky one out with it too..............Oh you already did that.

varks has been offered less money to stay. why would he stay !!

: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:56 pm  

JAMIE86 wrote:

varks has been offered less money to stay. why would he stay !!

1 - can't get more elsewhere
2 - lives with wife in WIDNES
3 - Already won 1 trophy why not more
4 - better chance than with any other side of reaching SL
5 - play in front of more than 12 fans

Or do you want me too expand on that?

: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:29 pm  

J20 wrote:

Sorry! lol. Erm no clue would expect it to be lower, but saying that for past few seasons Oldham have outbid quite a few NL1 sides for players so don't know!

You worrying for the leythers?

lol just covering all possibilities

: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:30 pm  

J20 wrote:

1 - can't get more elsewhere
2 - lives with wife in WIDNES
3 - Already won 1 trophy why not more
4 - better chance than with any other side of reaching SL
5 - play in front of more than 12 fans

Or do you want me too expand on that?

he doesn't even live in widnes shows how much you know !!!

and would u do your job but for less money ?? i know i wouldn't !!

: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:35 pm  

Digger_the_Dog wrote:

Sorry but Jamie is right, they are all but a few begging to get out, a lot of them already have things sorted with the permission of the club. You will owe Jamie an apology next season, there will be a fair few of the current squad playing elsewhere, and not the ones you want to be leaving either.

thanks digger so you also talk some sense !!

: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:30 pm  

J20 wrote: Pretty sure it's only 50% of their cap that doesn't count, not the whole thing (though not 100%). From what I heard / read sounded like he was on about the cap not finance and that contracts may be reduced due to cap reasons not the fact we can' afford them! It's not right but tbf, with an under 21's we technically double are playing pool so they will ceratinly cap that somehow! From current salary cap regulations [http://www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/Operational%20Rules%20Part%205.pdf ] The Salary Cap, finite upper limit, for 2009 has been set at £400k for NL1 and £200k for NL2 (excluding payments to players detailed under Section 7 – Non-Salary Cap Costs). They haven't bothered to get the names right but that looks like a lower cap for Championship One to me. 7.3 Costs for those players under 21 who are eligible to play in the academy teams are to be excluded from the Salary Cap Costs. For the avoidance of doubt this means players need to be under 21 years of age on August 31st 2008. However there is no credit granted against Salary Cap cost for U21 players loaned out to other clubs see 6.4.2 above. Under 21s are completely excluded, basically.

J20 wrote: Pretty sure it's only 50% of their cap that doesn't count, not the whole thing (though not 100%). From what I heard / read sounded like he was on about the cap not finance and that contracts may be reduced due to cap reasons not the fact we can' afford them! It's not right but tbf, with an under 21's we technically double are playing pool so they will ceratinly cap that somehow! From current salary cap regulations [http://www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/Operational%20Rules%20Part%205.pdf ] The Salary Cap, finite upper limit, for 2009 has been set at £400k for NL1 and £200k for NL2 (excluding payments to players detailed under Section 7 – Non-Salary Cap Costs). They haven't bothered to get the names right but that looks like a lower cap for Championship One to me. 7.3 Costs for those players under 21 who are eligible to play in the academy teams are to be excluded from the Salary Cap Costs. For the avoidance of doubt this means players need to be under 21 years of age on August 31st 2008. However there is no credit granted against Salary Cap cost for U21 players loaned out to other clubs see 6.4.2 above. Under 21s are completely excluded, basically.

: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:46 pm  

JAMIE86 wrote:

he doesn't even live in widnes shows how much you know !!!

and would u do your job but for less money ?? i know i wouldn't !!

Well he wanted to move to Widnes as his wife teaches at a local scholl and was living loclly at least!

Would I do my job for less money? Depends on job prospects doesn't it! If you have ambition that is?

Take the job elsewhere on more money (where I may ask?) but no will stay in that job for years or take a pay cut with the potential to earn much. much more in just 2 years time hmm...

: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:56 pm  

J20 wrote:

Well he wanted to move to Widnes as his wife teaches at a local scholl and was living loclly at least!

Would I do my job for less money? Depends on job prospects doesn't it! If you have ambition that is?

Take the job elsewhere on more money (where I may ask?) but no will stay in that job for years or take a pay cut with the potential to earn much. much more in just 2 years time hmm...

Varkulis is not a super league player if thats what your getting at.
IF widnes do make it to super league he will be left on the sidelines as will half the squad they have now. Makes sense for them to get out whilst they can.

: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:55 pm  

JAMIE86 wrote:

Varkulis is not a super league player if thats what your getting at.
IF widnes do make it to super league he will be left on the sidelines as will half the squad they have now. Makes sense for them to get out whilst they can.

Why would Varkulis leave if he can't get a better offer?