Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:41 pm  

OFFTHECUFF wrote:

We as a club have gone by the rules drawn up by the RFL and Widnes,

Corrected

Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:43 pm  

Quote from today's Halifax Evening Courier:

"Aside from the fire alarm, the main talking point off the field was the crowd, officially confirmed as a whopping 4,795 and apparently the result of some liberal ticket distribution at Saturday's Halifax Show, which squeaked Fax past the 2,500 average needed to apply for a Super League licence."

Note the words "officially confirmed".

Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:46 pm  

DemonUK wrote:

Corrected

Yea its RFL & Widnes VS the world

Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:59 pm  

Honestly, who cares about the crowd figure in the licensing stakes ?

We should be more concerned about the fact that Halifax have spent the last two years posting crowds below 2,500 and now for some bizarre reason decide to use their last game of the season and probably a fair bit of marketing to edge them over an RFL dreamt up crowd figure.

A bit more of a sustaoined and concerted effort on the marketing front in line with what they have used for yesterdays game and they would have obliterated our average and then maybe could have crowed about being the biggest club in this league.

It's a great crowd for this level but im a little worried at what seems like their eagerness to achieve this RFL magical crowd figure when other areas of their club from the outside seem neglected.

Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:19 pm  

widneslardboy wrote:

Honestly, who cares about the crowd figure in the licensing stakes ?

We should be more concerned about the fact that Halifax have spent the last two years posting crowds below 2,500 and now for some bizarre reason decide to use their last game of the season and probably a fair bit of marketing to edge them over an RFL dreamt up crowd figure.

A bit more of a sustaoined and concerted effort on the marketing front in line with what they have used for yesterdays game and they would have obliterated our average and then maybe could have crowed about being the biggest club in this league.

It's a great crowd for this level but im a little worried at what seems like their eagerness to achieve this RFL magical crowd figure when other areas of their club from the outside seem neglected.

but that average is only being hit by certain super league teams because of the away fans turning up in bigger numbers, some of them would struggle to reach 2,500 average if they were in the championship

Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:31 pm  

J20 wrote:

If you said you had 4,000 kids in it wouldn't no, but on average could work it out! Is it worked out by tickets purchased or turnstile clicks? Hence fire alarm

Varies from club to club but they're perfectly entitled to announce 'tickets sold' (as do a lot of clubs in both RL and football), even if those 'tickets sold' are of no value.

Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:31 pm  

faxtastic wrote:

but that average is only being hit by certain super league teams because of the away fans turning up in bigger numbers, some of them would struggle to reach 2,500 average if they were in the championship

But what does that matter. They dont have to meet any criteria to apply.

Championship clubs need to make themselves more attractive whether that be as a potential SL candidate or simply to keept this league going.

Come the season after the franchise decision you would think that we will see a drop in crowds as apathy starts to grow in the Championship.

I would love to see clubs get to grips with players wages at this level. Spend less on the first team players and then for instance each side is forced to put £10k aside specifically for marketing or promotion of games. Maybe even into a joint pot ala the idea Starbug had on the VT whereby an RFL appointed marketing team then do it on the clubs behalf with the funds they have set aside each.

It isnt going to get everyone flocking in but it is a start and at least the clubs start to breathe a bit of life into themselves.

You would think on the face of it that we are heading to SL but if we dont then it will be a hard three years to keep motivated and keep things ticking over.

Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:37 pm  

J20 wrote:

Yea its RFL & Widnes VS the world

Who mentioned the world, your welcome to SL. I'm sure SOC will welcome the return of some of his investment. Thats what millionaires do...invest for a return. Now how will he get a return in RL you ask? Well theres 3 million in free handouts coming your way over the next 3 years, do you reckon that will all get spent on the team?

Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:39 pm  

widneslardboy wrote:

But what does that matter. They dont have to meet any criteria to apply.

Championship clubs need to make themselves more attractive whether that be as a potential SL candidate or simply to keept this league going.

Come the season after the franchise decision you would think that we will see a drop in crowds as apathy starts to grow in the Championship.

I would love to see clubs get to grips with players wages at this level. Spend less on the first team players and then for instance each side is forced to put £10k aside specifically for marketing or promotion of games. Maybe even into a joint pot ala the idea Starbug had on the VT whereby an RFL appointed marketing team then do it on the clubs behalf with the funds they have set aside each.

It isnt going to get everyone flocking in but it is a start and at least the clubs start to breathe a bit of life into themselves.

You would think on the face of it that we are heading to SL but if we dont then it will be a hard three years to keep motivated and keep things ticking over.

What am saying is put a few of them in the championship they would struggle with that average, they might not have to achieve it as a criteria.

many sides are struggling to get that target as attracting new fans to come and watch a game with no hopes of a promotion at the end of the season, how can clubs like fax and leigh who are generally just below that average attract the new fans.

Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:40 pm  

I highly doubt he's doing all this to make a profit and walk away! You saying you'd rather not make SL then have an owner investing to get you there and trying to make the club as self sufficient as possible?