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Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:43 pm  
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What am saying is put a few of them in the championship they would struggle with that average, they might not have to achieve it as a criteria.

many sides are struggling to get that target as attracting new fans to come and watch a game with no hopes of a promotion at the end of the season, how can clubs like fax and leigh who are generally just below that average attract the new fans.


This is true but as Fax found yesterday one big push and it's done? Leigh could of done one freeby game and made it, Widnes did comfortably! You make it 2000 and how do you differ the apps without someone else moaning about another area?

I don't think 2,500 is too bad tbh! But as mentioned somewhere else SL should be 5k or in trouble!

They want you to show you will DEFINATELY add to competition, with Leighs & Fax's crowds last seasons in SL, I can't blame them can you?
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Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:51 pm  
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This is true but as Fax found yesterday one big push and it's done? Leigh could of done one freeby game and made it, Widnes did comfortably! You make it 2000 and how do you differ the apps without someone else moaning about another area?

I don't think 2,500 is too bad tbh! But as mentioned somewhere else SL should be 5k or in trouble!

They want you to show you will DEFINATELY add to competition, with Leighs & Fax's crowds last seasons in SL, I can't blame them can you?


well no not really, getting 0 points is never going to help a club get new fans.

yes but we have offered these free tickets before but if we have a game in ther play offs most of these kids we gave free tickets too will be there, we need to run this promotion maybe 3 games in a row to get them hooked.

the club cant really afford to have so many freebies so many games in a row though.
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Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:55 pm  
That's what i'm saying big push do it once and hey presto!
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Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:35 pm  
Only my opinion of course but if Leigh had played Widnes , Fax , fev and barrow on a sunday instead of midweek , we would probably have had an ave of around 2,500

Much as we all enjoy the thursday night games they can decimate your attendances and therefore your income streams as well

Leigh made an attempt to get a decent crowd on saturday , just as we did last year for the Toulouse fixture , but I'm sorry to say that the addition of the French team does nothing to impress the local floating support

So thats both televised games and foreign opposition experiments that are failures IMO

The RFL can bleat on all they want about how it gives the game and the competition a bigger profile , well sorry , they dont , not where it matters most , on the bank statement
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Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.

Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”

There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back!

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Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:36 pm  
Whilst the whole thing is a bit pathetic, all Halifax have actually achieved is that they’ve managed to hit one more of the criteria in order to waste their time and money in making another bid. The average attendance of 2,500 will be easily trumped by Widnes’ average of over 3,000 – without freebies. This is with a team which hasn’t set the league alight.

How will Halifax be marked for youth development, Turnover and financial backing?

Probably quite poorly, or not at all.

A West Yorkshire Championship club will not receive the same benefit of the doubt that a club like Toulouse will. If Halifax have managed to meet the average needed to put a bid in, by giving out freebies and good marketing, then hats off to them. It might help them to gain the ability to make a bid, but it’s unlikely to be successful (imo) and it won’t make it better than Widnes’bid either (imo).

This is not me having a go at Halifax. I think most people, with any sense, should be able to see what I’m saying here.
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That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
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That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:37 pm  
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Only my opinion of course but if Leigh had played Widnes , Fax , Fev and Barrow on a sunday instead of midweek , we would probably have had an ave of around 2,500

Much as we all enjoy the thursday night games they can decimate your attendances and therefore your income streams as well

Leigh made an attempt to get a decent crowd on saturday , just as we did last year for the Toulouse fixture , but I'm sorry to say that the addition of the French team does nothing to impress the local floating support

So thats both televised games and foreign opposition experiments that are failures IMO

The RFL can bleat on all they want about how it gives the game and the competition a bigger profile , well sorry , they dont , not where it matters most , on the bank statement
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Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.

Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”

There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back!

Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY!

Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:38 pm  
Starbug wrote:
Only my opinion of course but if Leigh had played Widnes , Fax , fev and barrow on a sunday instead of midweek , we would probably have had an ave of around 2,500

Much as we all enjoy the thursday night games they can decimate your attendances and therefore your income streams as well

Leigh made an attempt to get a decent crowd on saturday , just as we did last year for the Toulouse fixture , but I'm sorry to say that the addition of the French team does nothing to impress the local floating support

So thats both televised games and foreign opposition experiments that are failures IMO

The RFL can bleat on all they want about how it gives the game and the competition a bigger profile , well sorry , they dont , not where it matters most , on the bank statement


But Widnes have managed to average just over 3,000, with pretty similar circumstances. :wink:
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But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:41 pm  
Pepe wrote:
Whilst the whole thing is a bit pathetic, all Halifax have actually achieved is that they’ve managed to hit one more of the criteria in order to waste their time and money in making another bid. The average attendance of 2,500 will be easily trumped by Widnes’ average of over 3,000 – without freebies. This is with a team which hasn’t set the league alight.

How will Halifax be marked for youth development, Turnover and financial backing?

Probably quite poorly, or not at all.

A West Yorkshire Championship club will not receive the same benefit of the doubt that a club like Toulouse will. If Halifax have managed to meet the average needed to put a bid in, by giving out freebies and good marketing, then hats off to them. It might help them to gain the ability to make a bid, but it’s unlikely to be successful (imo) and it won’t make it better than Widnes’bid either (imo).

This is not me having a go at Halifax. I think most people, with any sense, should be able to see what I’m saying here.



Personally , I think that the way fax are looking at it is , in another 3 years time they will be able to say that they are the only Championship club [ apart from Toulouse and whoever drops down ] that has submitted an application every time , thinking that this will in some way give them extra influence

Very funny though :D
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Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.

Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”

There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back!

Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY!

Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:46 pm  
Starbug wrote:
Personally , I think that the way fax are looking at it is , in another 3 years time they will be able to say that they are the only Championship club [ apart from Toulouse and whoever drops down ] that has submitted an application every time , thinking that this will in some way give them extra influence

Very funny though :D


That seems like one hell of a long shot. But in this crazy old world of licencing, who knows? :THINK:
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Re: Attendance Criteria : Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:19 pm  
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But Widnes have managed to average just over 3,000, with pretty similar circumstances. :wink:


Yes but that shouldnt make any difference what average you have over the 2,500 mark,

the average we needed was 2,500 thats what we have acheived by hook or by crook.

whether you have a 3,000 average shouldnt be taken into account,
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