Its a sad state of affairs when a club is obviously encouraged to massage the financial figures but when that same club spends the next 3 years telling the world how good its youth systems are and then systamatically starts ripping them apart and releasing all its kids, what are we suppose to think?.
I would be very careful in what your saying with this JC, very careful indeed.
As for letting the kids go only Hulme has gone from the youth who deserved a contract, the rest were not good enough for Super League.
The youth the club has been raving about are the liked of Craven, Gore, Gilmour, Owens, Brown, Whity all still here!
We also didn't fudge figures it's not rocket science! The first year we put structures and changes in place at a big cost, the second year was then mainly money coming on.
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SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!
It was at the time the club announced its turnover and profits. You were particularly active on the Halifax board, as I recall. You were stirring the poop for all you were worth.
Yes I did , but nowhere did I suggest you had ' cheated ' at anything , you announced what was in the ' books ' , I just questioned how it had got into the ' books '
Any director with a spare fifty grand in the bank could easily put it through the clubs account every week of the year if he wanted to giving a 2.6 million turnover , if you don't understand that , it isn't my fault , have you announced similar figures for the following year ?
Because if you have , then a max SL salary cap spend should be no issue for you
As I have stated , I have more than balanced any criticism of Widnes' s supposed financial performance with many , many posts extoling the positives you have given to the Championships and will bring to SL in the next few years
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back! Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY!
Yes I did , but nowhere did I suggest you had ' cheated ' at anything , you announced what was in the ' books ' , I just questioned how it had got into the ' books '
Any director with a spare fifty grand in the bank could easily put it through the clubs account every week of the year if he wanted to giving a 2.6 million turnover , if you don't understand that , it isn't my fault , have you announced similar figures for the following year ?
Because if you have , then a max SL salary cap spend should be no issue for you
As I have stated , I have more than balanced any criticism of Widnes' s supposed financial performance with many , many posts extoling the positives you have given to the Championships and will bring to SL in the next few years
I didn’t mind you questioning the results. I couldn’t care less what you think. It was the constant trolling on this board and demanding that all the Widnes supporters on it bow down and agree with every word you say, that vexed me and the rest of us off. You did then go onto the Halifax board and expressed your opinion vehemently, suggesting that this would disadvantage Halifax’s own bid and winding them up about it. Basically you were telling them that we could be cheating them out of a Super League licence. There is no other way to interperate what you were doing - there just isn't, because you were.
Now we have a situation where Leigh, utterly desperate to meet the on-field qualification, have gone and told the RFL how they could increase their income (not their turnover) in order to increase the amount of money they can spend on the cap, thus gain advantage over other clubs. This is despite knowing full well that, due to the costs of playing at the LSV, increasing income would be impossible. So, that’s cheating then. The outcome for Leigh is that they failed to meet the on-field criteria, but they have lost their owner and are now in a far weaker financial position.
Do you see me, or any other Widnes fan trolling other club's boards and stirring the poop about this?
The answer to that is NO, isn’t it Starbug?
Yet you and your wife, Dick, still think that they can throw poop at this club on our own board, in a display of hard-faced and shameless hypocrisy of the highest order. You have no place having a go at my club, when you cannot even acknowledge the shortcomings of your own.
I do not care what else you may have said about Widnes, because you have now shown your true colours, and what it is you are actually all about.
You seem suicidal because McNamara hasn't picked your precious Mickey Mac, who's better than Roby, and Darryl 'Meninga' Goulding who makes Jamie Lyon look like an amateur.
I didn’t mind you questioning the results. I couldn’t care less what you think. It was the constant trolling on this board and demanding that all the Widnes supporters on it bow down and agree with every word you say, that vexed me and the rest of us off. You did then go onto the Halifax board and expressed your opinion vehemently, suggesting that this would disadvantage Halifax’s own bid and winding them up about it. Basically you were telling them that we could be cheating them out of a Super League licence. There is no other way to interperate what you were doing - there just isn't, because you were.
Now we have a situation where Leigh, utterly desperate to meet the on-field qualification, have gone and told the RFL how they could increase their income (not their turnover) in order to increase the amount of money they can spend on the cap, thus gain advantage over other clubs. This is despite knowing full well that, due to the costs of playing at the LSV, increasing income would be impossible. So, that’s cheating then. The outcome for Leigh is that they failed to meet the on-field criteria, but they have lost their owner and are now in a far weaker financial position.
Do you see me, or any other Widnes fan trolling other club's boards and stirring the poop about this?
The answer to that is NO, isn’t it Starbug?
Yet you and your wife, Dick, still think that they can throw poop at this club on our own board, in a display of hard-faced and shameless hypocrisy of the highest order. You have no place having a go at my club, when you cannot even acknowledge the shortcomings of your own.
I do not care what else you may have said about Widnes, because you have now shown your true colours, and what it is you are actually all about.
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back! Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY!
You'll be telling us next that you can get 12 months car insurance but only pay for 10
Or that if you buy the downstairs windows , you get the upstairs done for free
As I said , it's 12 months since the accounting miracle , I await with baited breath your figures for 2010
I’m not trying to tell you anything. I couldn't give a feck what you think. You just seem a little inconsistent in the way you judge Widnes compared to the much worse situation at Leigh, which you’d clearly prefer to brush under the carpet and stay in denial of.
Again, Widnes fan’s didn’t see fit to go on other boards slagging your club off for it and stirring the sh\t in order to create bitterness against your club.
I’m just not going to second guess what is going on at Widnes, in the same way you refuse to do with Leigh.
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!
I’m not trying to tell you anything. I couldn't give a feck what you think. You just seem a little inconsistent in the way you judge Widnes compared to the much worse situation at Leigh, which you’d clearly prefer to brush under the carpet and stay in denial of.
Again, Widnes fan’s didn’t see fit to go on other boards slagging your club off for it and stirring the sh\t in order to create bitterness against your club.
I’m just not going to second guess what is going on at Widnes, in the same way you refuse to do with Leigh.
Dya Geddit now?
I'll happily discuss anything you want to about Leigh
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back! Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY!
