Widnes Weekly News : Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:38 am  

Just bought this weeks addition and read back page story.
Not that I want to bring up the subject again as I think we need to move on as a club, some very interesting statements made by all parties.

JS Comments ;

sounds coming out of the club that the decision was amicable are 'absolute bull' - Wasn't the decision as stated on the club website 'by mutual consent'?

'I was under the impression that I was in with a chance of becoming the next Widnes SuperLeague coach and so this decision is a massive disappointment to me' - Who gave him that impression, the owner?

'I still wanted to stay at the club but there was no negotiation' - Did the club really want him to stay?

'The club told me they could no longer afford to pay me full time wages - but I've got a family to look after'

PC Comments

'We've been considering changes since day one as it obviously wasn't working and so we've brought in Mick Cassidy and he will add alot' - Does this mean it wasn't working againts Toulouse when we won 70 - 0?

AB Comments

'The reduced hours role was offered to John who wrote to the club stating that he formally rejected the offer' - Surely if he has a contract and has been told that he is the next Head Coach, then to be told there is only a part time deal available, he has every right to be vexed off and reject the 'offer'?

Something just doesn't sound right.

For my money, Cullen has seen JS as a threat from day one, and had plans to get rid. The club seem to have been bluffed, and done a complete reversal on what STEVE O'CONNOR said in match notes about 'John Stankevitch having a long term future at the club'.

I don't mind admitting that I know JS, and I'm gutted for the lad. Think he has been well and truly poop on!

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:50 am  

Hopefulyl he won't have bad blood in the long term. He could yet be our coach in the future. It was obvious we needed a conditioner though. Perhaps it was a matter of fitting three into two.

It's a shame he's been treated this way, though.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:52 am  

I feel sorry for john. He's Widnes through and through. It does look like PC didn't rate him and didn't want him around. I think it was the hope that JS would one day become the coach and learn his trade under PC, but I don't think it could've ever been regarded as a cast iron promise. I think it was just an aim.

John has done a lot of good work at the club and I wish him and his family all the best, and hope he gets back in the game somewhere soon.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:11 am  

That's usually the tactic for getting shut of anyone in any job. Tell them their job no longer exists but offer them something else you know they won't take. Therefore they left of their own accord and have no comeback. Bit unfair really.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:05 am  

I've put together a number of posts now about very real concerns I have at the moment but have never got round to pushing the submit button..

SOC did mention that JS was remaining at the club to learn from the new coach and to one day hopefully be installed as the club's SL coach.
I don't remember the press release about Stankevitch stating that the split was by mutual consent.
I think Richard might have hit the nail squarely on the head regarding the conditioning plus I'm not really sure what extra an assistant manager can offer a club which is now mostly being run on a part-time basis but with a full time coach and a part time conditioner. PC probably now has more than enough capacity to cope with the help of a part-time assistant.

FWIW and I hope John does realise that the fans are well behind him and that ideally we all would have liked him to continue in his post and become what we all hoped for him. I haven't heard one dissenting voice on this with the obvious exception of one forum poster.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:41 pm  

Pepe wrote:

John has done a lot of good work at the club and I wish him and his family all the best, and hope he gets back in the game somewhere soon.

I'll second that.

Re: Widnes Weekly News : Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:34 pm  

pieface wrote:

Just bought this weeks addition and read back page story.
Not that I want to bring up the subject again as I think we need to move on as a club, some very interesting statements made by all parties.

JS Comments ;

sounds coming out of the club that the decision was amicable are 'absolute bull' - Wasn't the decision as stated on the club website 'by mutual consent'?

'I was under the impression that I was in with a chance of becoming the next Widnes SuperLeague coach and so this decision is a massive disappointment to me' - Who gave him that impression, the owner?

'I still wanted to stay at the club but there was no negotiation' - Did the club really want him to stay?

'The club told me they could no longer afford to pay me full time wages - but I've got a family to look after'

PC Comments

'We've been considering changes since day one as it obviously wasn't working and so we've brought in Mick Cassidy and he will add alot' - Does this mean it wasn't working againts Toulouse when we won 70 - 0?

AB Comments

'The reduced hours role was offered to John who wrote to the club stating that he formally rejected the offer' - Surely if he has a contract and has been told that he is the next Head Coach, then to be told there is only a part time deal available, he has every right to be vexed off and reject the 'offer'?

Something just doesn't sound right.

For my money, Cullen has seen JS as a threat from day one, and had plans to get rid. The club seem to have been bluffed, and done a complete reversal on what STEVE O'CONNOR said in match notes about 'John Stankevitch having a long term future at the club'.

I don't mind admitting that I know JS, and I'm gutted for the lad. Think he has been well and truly poop on!

No job is forever and i wish stanky luck. Their is no sentiment in any sport and it shows at many football teams who sack if job not done.Ste mac was a nice guy but the team not training together is a big joke.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:36 pm  

Obviously I wish John all the best in the future, but all I want is what is best for the club. Lots of people seem to be of the opinion that they wanted John to stay, but I don't think anyone can definitively say that they know 100% we'll be worse off with Stanky moving on.

For a team in this division, you can't really get any more experienced or more high profile than Cullen and Wilkinson. Could be a good move or could be a bad move, just have to put our faith in the club and see what happens.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:49 pm  

vikings 4 ever wrote:

Obviously I wish John all the best in the future, but all I want is what is best for the club. Lots of people seem to be of the opinion that they wanted John to stay, but I don't think anyone can definitively say that they know 100% we'll be worse off with Stanky moving on.

For a team in this division, you can't really get any more experienced or more high profile than Cullen and Wilkinson. Could be a good move or could be a bad move, just have to put our faith in the club and see what happens.

Someone with sense.Had enough hearing people too matey.I know him so should stay.Then here that club poop on him.Sorry i would love coach my club but if not good enough you should go elsewhere.This is what annoys me is people blaming the club.If i see players not professional i would bin them.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:51 pm  

Soldierboy wrote:

Someone with sense.Had enough hearing people too matey.I know him so should stay.Then here that club poop on him.Sorry i would love coach my club but if not good enough you should go elsewhere.This is what annoys me is people blaming the club.If i see players not professional i would bin them.

Are you Manuel from Fawlty Towers?