Loan a Raider? : Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:45 pm  

Got to laugh just seen a Barrow fan having a pop at Widnes having too many loan players and not using youth

(last two games for sides)
Barrow Vs Batley - 3 (4?) loans / dual
Widnes Vs Batley - 2 loans / dual

The bad publicty directed our way on forums is so factually incorrect it's untrue! BBC was full off good cup but too many loans on show... what 3?

At least we know they still care

Re: Loan a Raider? : Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:58 pm  

were just trying to get it in before you leave for super dooper league

Re: Loan a Raider? : Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:39 pm  

J20 wrote:

Got to laugh just seen a Barrow fan having a pop at Widnes having too many loan players and not using youth

(last two games for sides)
Barrow Vs Batley - 3 (4?) loans / dual
Widnes Vs Batley - 2 loans / dual

The bad publicty directed our way on forums is so factually incorrect it's untrue! BBC was full off good cup but too many loans on show... what 3?

At least we know they still care

And the award for prize pratt goes to J20. He also receives the award for most pointless, inaccurate thread creation.

Keale Carlile was our only loan/dual reg player who played against Batley. We've only had 3 all season - with McGillvary and Blackwood being the other 2. Between all 3 they've probably played less than 10 league games all season.

Just out of interest, how many league matches have your loan/dual reg players clocked-up between them Indeed, how many different loan/dual reg players have you had this year ?

Ainscough
Farrell
Davies
James
Marsh
Dean
Netherton
I'Anson

Any more ???

Re: Loan a Raider? : Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:43 pm  

What a pilchard you are J20

Re: Loan a Raider? : Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:57 am  

SRC wrote:

And the award for prize pratt goes to J20. He also receives the award for most pointless, inaccurate thread creation.

Keale Carlile was our only loan/dual reg player who played against Batley. We've only had 3 all season - with McGillvary and Blackwood being the other 2. Between all 3 they've probably played less than 10 league games all season.

Just out of interest, how many league matches have your loan/dual reg players clocked-up between them Indeed, how many different loan/dual reg players have you had this year ?

Ainscough
Farrell
Davies
James
Marsh
Dean
Netherton
I'Anson

Any more ???

I'm sure there is more to be honest, (although Marsh hasnt played yet and Dean played one game). Whilst I know nothing about how many dual/loan players Barrow have had (and not too fussed!) Widnes have had to do this due to the ridicuolous injuries we've had this year. The signing of Dean and Marsh comes on the back of Toa having a serious knee injury.

I don't quite see what the 'slating' of having dual/loan players means to be honest, it's all within the rules and actually been quite smart in my opinion. If people are indicating that Widnes can't develop their own players, just look at our under 18's. (Currently in the top 4 academy teams in the country) We can't throw them in and because of the salary cap we can't make the first team squad any bigger, therefore have we had a choice?

Re: Loan a Raider? : Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:10 am  

SRC wrote:

And the award for prize pratt goes to J20. He also receives the award for most pointless, inaccurate thread creation.

Keale Carlile was our only loan/dual reg player who played against Batley. We've only had 3 all season - with McGillvary and Blackwood being the other 2. Between all 3 they've probably played less than 10 league games all season.

Just out of interest, how many league matches have your loan/dual reg players clocked-up between them Indeed, how many different loan/dual reg players have you had this year ?

Ainscough
Farrell
Davies
James
Marsh
Dean
Netherton
I'Anson

Any more ???

Dean=1 game, I,Anson 15 mins played till got injured.Netherton permanent now.Only really Ben Davies got alot of games out of the dual players.We have kept to the rules so i wish you stop whinging. Marsh has not played yet .

Re: Loan a Raider? : Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:00 am  

AJ Viking wrote:

I'm sure there is more to be honest, (although Marsh hasnt played yet and Dean played one game). Whilst I know nothing about how many dual/loan players Barrow have had (and not too fussed!) Widnes have had to do this due to the ridicuolous injuries we've had this year. The signing of Dean and Marsh comes on the back of Toa having a serious knee injury.

I don't quite see what the 'slating' of having dual/loan players means to be honest, it's all within the rules and actually been quite smart in my opinion. If people are indicating that Widnes can't develop their own players, just look at our under 18's. (Currently in the top 4 academy teams in the country) We can't throw them in and because of the salary cap we can't make the first team squad any bigger, therefore have we had a choice?

First of all, this thead was started by a Widnes fan having a pop at the number of Barrow loan players for our match vs Batley. I put him right.

Regarding Widnes loan players, we all know that you have had an horrendous amount of players missing (so have Barrow by the way), but your 'reasons' for recruiting so many loan players doesn't stack up. At the very start of the season you set your stall out with a full quota of dual reg players. From your post, you seem to think that loan players don't impact on the salary cap - anyone over 21 does count - be they permanent contract or loan.

I'm sure that you Widnes fans would be screaming blue murder if Barrow had used AT LEAST 8 loan players this season. And I'm also sure that you would be banging on about the lack of a youth stucture at our club.

Re: Loan a Raider? : Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:27 am  

seriously what is the issue of having loan/dual reg players?!!! i wish people would stop going on about it. IT IS IN THE LAWS OF THE GAME!! so why on earth are people being so petty?

Re: Loan a Raider? : Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:36 am  

SRC wrote:

First of all, this thead was started by a Widnes fan having a pop at the number of Barrow loan players for our match vs Batley. I put him right.

Regarding Widnes loan players, we all know that you have had an horrendous amount of players missing (so have Barrow by the way), but your 'reasons' for recruiting so many loan players doesn't stack up. At the very start of the season you set your stall out with a full quota of dual reg players. From your post, you seem to think that loan players don't impact on the salary cap - anyone over 21 does count - be they permanent contract or loan.

I'm sure that you Widnes fans would be screaming blue murder if Barrow had used AT LEAST 8 loan players this season. And I'm also sure that you would be banging on about the lack of a youth stucture at our club.

I'm sure 'us Widnes fans' probably would have a go because there is a lack of youth at your club! We're the only Championship club running a very impressive under 18s.

You say our excuses for having loans players dont stack up? What excuses are they? As I previously said, we had a number of injuries and playing 17/18 year olds in this division isn't realistic. What does Cull do until players are fit to return? Sign new players for the season and then have too many when everyone is back fit, or be sensible and sign players on loan/dual reg who can come in and do a job. I think the fact that we got to the cup final is testiment to the job Cull is doing.

James Webster leaving left a big gap, both on the cap and on the pitch which I don't think we've recovered from yet. So no problems signing players short term. We're getting players back slowly but surely now, hence only Davies and Ainscough playing last Sunday in the cup.

Re: Loan a Raider? : Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:37 am  

SRC wrote:

First of all, this thead was started by a Widnes fan having a pop at the number of Barrow loan players for our match vs Batley. I put him right.

Incorrect! It wasn't having a pop at Barrow using loans it was mentioning them bagging Widnes for playing two! No need to be so defensive