2012 Squad Depth List : Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:20 pm  

Seen as the vast majority of our recruitment has been done, I thought it maybe worth having a look at it in a positional sense, attaching each player to one posistion to see how the squad depth is shaping up. Obviously a lot can play more than one spot but have had to select one to balance the look out.

FULL BACK
Shaun Briscoe
Danny Craven
Jack Owens

WING
Paddy Flynn
Patrick Ah Van

CENTRE
Chris Dean
Willie Isa

STAND OFF
Anthony Watts
Tom Gilmour

SCRUM HALF
Rhys Hanbury
LLoyd White

HOOKER
Jon Clarke
Scott Moore
Thomas Coyle

PROP
Ben Cross
Ben Davies
Steve Pickersgill
Ben Kavangh
Anthony Mullally

SECOND ROW
Hep Cahill
Frank Winterstein
Dave Allen
Macgraff Leuluai

LOOSE FORWARD
Simon Finnigan
Kurt Haggerty

Re: 2012 Squad Depth List : Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:42 pm  

All of the second rowers and loose forwards may aswell be lumped together as back rowers because they've all interchanged between the two form what I have seen.

A prop, centre and wing and were probably done. Adding in the younger ones to bulk the squad out (Brown, Mullally, Gore) to the thirty mark and we look okay.

Re: 2012 Squad Depth List : Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:51 pm  

I don't mean this in a wind up way and although it sounds like a troll i'm being 100% genuine, with that team you are getting battered week in week out, sorry.

Re: 2012 Squad Depth List : Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:57 pm  

Ah yes knew had missed one, Mullally added as will likely be fighting for a first team spot.

Horatio Yed wrote:

I don't mean this in a wind up way and although it sounds like a troll i'm being 100% genuine, with that team you are getting battered week in week out, sorry.

You think? It's stronger than this years Wakefield, Crusaders and Quins at least for starters. With a few more to be added. 13 players all signed from within SL and playing regularly week in week out (Davies on loan at Cas).

Re: 2012 Squad Depth List : Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:59 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

I don't mean this in a wind up way and although it sounds like a troll i'm being 100% genuine, with that team you are getting battered week in week out, sorry.

I know you well enough to agree you aren't trolling, but I disagree that we will be battered every week. We're going to find it tough but there is some quality in there. We're not going to be world beaters first season but I'm not getting carried away with gloom just yet.

Re: 2012 Squad Depth List : Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:02 pm  

Fringe players and surplus to requirements and in Clarke, Moore and Cross you lost plenty of metres in penalties, Ah Van was arguably the worst player in SL last year and only the fact he kicks goals brushed over that.

I'd love to be wrong, i want a local side competing, i want Widnes in the top half of the table, the more competitive the game the better for me, just can't see it in season one.

Re: 2012 Squad Depth List : Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:08 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Fringe players and surplus to requirements and in Clarke, Moore and Cross you lost plenty of metres in penalties, Ah Van was arguably the worst player in SL last year and only the fact he kicks goals brushed over that.

I'd love to be wrong, i want a local side competing, i want Widnes in the top half of the table, the more competitive the game the better for me, just can't see it in season one.

Not sure about that as bar Clarke (who regained place near the end anyway) all the others were in there sides 17 every week. Ah Van had a few stinkers in defence (mainly when centre from what I gather) and also did some good things in attack however if he was that awful why did Bradford stick with him every week? Especially when announced he was leaving?

We probably won't be top half for a year or two yet (though who knows) so we have to build a squad up slowly and surely and for a first year SL squad that IMO is a very good start when you look at other recent newly promoted sides.

Re: 2012 Squad Depth List : Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:10 pm  

then again, we dont have a pink building with a giant eye. so its all good.

Re: 2012 Squad Depth List : Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:12 pm  

Chris Dalton wrote:

I know you well enough to agree you aren't trolling, but I disagree that we will be battered every week. We're going to find it tough but there is some quality in there. We're not going to be world beaters first season but I'm not getting carried away with gloom just yet.

Just wondering how much of an advantage we will get from playing on the iPitch. Interesting quote from Briscoe in that interview on the official site..

If I'm completely honest with you, if you're not used to it, it can take some getting used to

Obviously we are going to be training on this every day so we should be able to work out any quirks with it.

Re: 2012 Squad Depth List : Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:13 pm  

To be fair though I don't think any reasonable Widnes fans are expecting miracles. Im not going to judge individual players until they have actually played next year for us but I am reasonable enough not to jump down your throat for your opinion and proclaim our championship challenge.

A solid season off the bottom next year with some close games along the way would be a job well done. There is a little bit of quality in that side with plenty of graft elsewhere and if we can get a couple of the youngsters more involved on a weekly basis then we have got to be pleased.

There is no doubt that we will cop some hammerings next year as it goes with being the newbies. Equally though we are the unknown quanitity and every new team has sprung up some surprise results along the way for as long as we have promoted sides. One of our main advantages could well be the I-Pitch and if it gives us a little bit more of a leveller then that would be perfect.