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Hocks ban : Tue May 14, 2013 11:18 pm  
Anybody go the game? Didn't see much myself. Four games seems absolutely mental and I can see us appealing. It's not like he pushed the ref over and threw him on the floor

With cross and Cahill missing we really need gaz to be playing every game
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Re: Hocks ban : Wed May 15, 2013 12:23 pm  
It appears he turned to chase a break back and knocked into him, ref got off and thought nothing of it yet Ganson and his new crew decided to charge and ban.

Betts unhappy but doesn't sound like we are bothering to appeal. Going off what has been previously said apparently they have a big file on Hock they wheel out everytime no matter what incident... which when you compare to some others who get continued 'warnings' is ridiculous.
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Re: Hocks ban : Thu May 16, 2013 11:57 am  
This is what I just posted on our board - (If you can't be bothered to read it, basically, it's a bullshït decision):

jinkin jimmy wrote:
This is interesting.if the ref doesn't think an offence was committed against him I would also like to see the incident before joining the condemnation. Hock's first referee offence was a deliberate grab, this sounds like something completely different.


This is entirely different.

My first reaction was "I'm not surprised. He's an idiot".

However, having ready the disciplinary report, Denis Betts, Hock and even the official all agree that this was accidentalt contact whilst chasing back into the defensive line, with the official running back too, in wet conditions that meant Hock slipped into him.

He, apparently, didn't even raise his arms, which you would do if you were deliberately running in to someone to shove them out of the way.

Fecking joke if you ask me.

RFL Disciplinary Panel wrote:

Hearing conducted by Skype with Head Coach Dennis Betts and player.
Player pleads not guilty to deliberate contact with the Official.
Mr Betts points out there were no deliberate contact with the referee.
The player was chasing back and accidentally caught the Official as he was running back.
It was raining heavily and conditions underfoot were poor and it was hard to change direction.
Player does not lift his arms up he is scrambling back in defence and trying to get to the ball as quickly as possible.
Coach spoke to official after game and official made no complaint about the incident.
In the context of the game there was nothing deliberate or intentional on the part of the player.


Aggravating Factors :
Previous record for a similar offence.


Reasons for Decision
In deciding the appropriate sanction the tribunal take into account the players previous disciplinary history, two cases of which involved conduct towards match officials.
The tribunal are satisfied the player had no intention to cause injury to the Official.
The contact was unnecessary and avoidable. Officials have to be protected and the tribunal feel this is a serious matter.
Taking into account all the circumstances the tribunal feel that a 4 match suspension and £300 fine are appropriate.


I'm sorry, but that is bullshït.
1 offense was for grabbing the sleeve of a ref and turning him round to talk to (stupid)
2nd offense was for swearing at the ref (more stupidity)

This makes it seem like Hock goes ref-hunting.

Total witch-hunt without cause.
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Re: Hocks ban : Thu May 16, 2013 12:26 pm  
Fully agreed pal.

Read report yesterday they basically just say 'no we disagree you did it on purpose so there' crazy.

On one hand they say they are 'protecting the officials' yet on the other they are completely overruling him!
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Re: Hocks ban : Thu May 16, 2013 3:23 pm  
Atrocious, unless I've got the wrong end of the stick this essentially means we know you not guilty but we simply don't like you anyhow so have a ban.
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Re: Hocks ban : Thu May 16, 2013 8:40 pm  
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Atrocious, unless I've got the wrong end of the stick this essentially means we know you not guilty but we simply don't like you anyhow so have a ban.


No mate.

That's exactly what it feels like to me (and most right-minded RL fans, I feel).

Witch-Hunt, pure and simple.

Compare and contrast this 4-match ban, for accidentally colliding with the ref, to the same length of ban given to Corey Paterson for an off-the-ball "tackle" that left Blake Green unconcious.

How can the 2 even be compared?
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Re: Hocks ban : Thu May 16, 2013 9:12 pm  
Like it or lump it, he's a marked man! Totally agree this ones a bullshit decision but he has previous. Shame as when he's on his game he is fantastic. We've now lost him for roughly a quarter of the games in theory he could be available for just over halfway through the season due to indiscipline.

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