Patrick Ah Van : Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:31 pm  

Why oh why does Denis Betts persist with Ah Van.
He is lazy, weak in defence, can't catch and useless.
Every team we play, targets his wing, knowing it is our weakest link.
Pre-season has been encouraging but for Ah Van.
Time to get shut.

Re: Patrick Ah Van : Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:56 pm  

I didn't go at the weekend but listened online and read the write ups and it did seem like he was at fault for 1 maybe 2 tries but then Flynn fluffed the kick at the end which gave them the scrum which set up the position for the winning try. I agree he can be vulnerable especially when teams get close to our line and go at his wing either via a kick up or grubber or if they use hands and run at him, but likewise he too can be devastating for us when we use him with kicks to his corner or wide passes. I don't know the facts but how many tries does he score compared to what he directly costs us? Betts must deem he is worth the risk, I'm undecided I like him but can be so frustrated when he let daft / soft tries in.

Re: Patrick Ah Van : Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:44 pm  

I think useless is way over the top and bordering on the personal.I make no apology for being a big PAV fan, however patience is wearing a bit thin.There is a fabulous player in there somewhere but unfortunately we see too little of it.He is so frustrating, if only he could eradicate the weaknesses in his game and show more consistency.A Patrick Ah Van,injury free and on top of his game would be great for both fans and team alike.I just hope we get to see it this year.

Re: Patrick Ah Van : Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:31 pm  

Oldchemic wrote:

Why oh why does Denis Betts persist with Ah Van.
He is lazy, weak in defence, can't catch and useless.
Every team we play, targets his wing, knowing it is our weakest link.
Pre-season has been encouraging but for Ah Van.
Time to get shut.

I don't see any point rubbishing the fella, as when he's on song he is devastating. Trouble is he hardly ever seems fit enough to walk let alone play rugby. I did go to Cas and his knee was strapped up yet again. Sadly he missed almost every one of his tackles, though he also did some decent carries and hard yards from the back.

By the way, Cas were kicking to Paddy as much as Ah Van - and we know that paid off at the end.

Re: Patrick Ah Van : Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:29 pm  

While I'd prefer to see Jack Owens given a decent run, a fit PAV would surely be an asset? On that basis I'm not sure rubbishing him is in any way helpful!?!

Re: Patrick Ah Van : Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:00 pm  

Ok maybe I was slightly over the top, but AhVan let's us down every game.
Flynn did drop ball, but was odd mistake, and also voted Vikings MOM by press.
Feel we would be better served by any of Owen, Hulme, , on wing or Hulme or Dean at centre with Marsh on wing.

Re: Patrick Ah Van : Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:03 am  

Super League needs a fit and firing Patty Ah Van

Re: Patrick Ah Van : Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:48 am  

I know he can look like he can't be bothered half the time but there's just something about Ah Van that you've got to love. He's the best finisher close to the try line in the first team. Prove them all wrong Patty!

Re: Patrick Ah Van : Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:53 pm  

Strange one this, I know the game has changed but no one bothered about the defensive capabilities of: Bevan, Van Voll. Stuart Wright, Offiah etc. yes I know they were special but there are lots of wingers only selected on attacking ability.

Re: Patrick Ah Van : Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:16 pm  

PAV seems to be the latest in a long line of targets for the boo boys old rocker.Mick George,Mike O'Neill, Andy Currier,Andy Hay,Adam Hughes,to name but a few, have all been there before him.