: Wed May 20, 2009 9:10 am  

bigjohn wrote:

After reading all the comments on this thread i feel i need to set the record straight on a number of comments made, firstly Tony Miller with the exception of one of the five games played has been to every match to watch the boys.
Secondly to all those slating the reserves these are the facts, the team are a brand NEW team who have only been together for a matter of weeks with not having the luxury of having pre season training together UNLIKE most of the other teams they are up against who are already established teams. The average age of this reserves side is 18 years old making them eligable to play under 18,s rugby let alone under 21,s.
At the Fev game the team consisted of four BOYS who are currently 17 yrs old who put thier hand up to play because of injuries etc. these boys took the field knowing they were up against MEN who are Physically stronger and more experienced and were brave enough to take a pounding as they are proud to wear the Donny shirt with most of them not even coming from the Donny area. So instead of slating the team get down to support them as although they are young at present they are talented players of the future. I ask the question would leeds academy stand any chance of beating their reserve side ?

I've seen Tony at the games I've attended so people saying he wasn't there are wrong.

Still doesn't explain why there was only 3 on the bench for the Fev match when others were available. One of my mates who has signed for the reserves got a phone call friday evening following the unfortunate accident involving some of the players, another did not.
Not going to do the lads confidence much good thinking they'd rather play with 16 than have him on the bench is it? And I'm sure he cant have been the only one.

As for the men against boys that will not wash due the the limitations on overage players.

And the bitching and arguing on the pitch? Should be addressed by the coaching staff.

Still not looking good from where I'm standing

: Wed May 20, 2009 9:35 am  

Gargoyle wrote:

I've seen Tony at the games I've attended so people saying he wasn't there are wrong.

Still doesn't explain why there was only 3 on the bench for the Fev match when others were available. One of my mates who has signed for the reserves got a phone call friday evening following the unfortunate accident involving some of the players, another did not.
Not going to do the lads confidence much good thinking they'd rather play with 16 than have him on the bench is it? And I'm sure he cant have been the only one.

As for the men against boys that will not wash due the the limitations on overage players.

And the bitching and arguing on the pitch? Should be addressed by the coaching staff.

Still not looking good from where I'm standing

I travelled 50 miles to the game on sat with a player who did not know if he had been selected to play or not until he got there. The coaches shouldnt have to ring round asking players to attend on match days. They were all asked to attend every game whether selected or not as they are a team. i am aware that a player who had been selected pulled out shortly before the game with an injury which is beyond anyones control so if that lad had turned up it woulnt have left the rest of them to play with 16 players.

: Wed May 20, 2009 10:49 am  

Big John who ever you are you speak common sense there are a few people having a go at the team and set up. As stated at the start of this thread at York your players showed a lot of balls and where the better team on the night. Dont rise to the antics of Bandito and Gargoyle probably never played or understand the requirements of Rugby League

: Wed May 20, 2009 11:10 am  

yorkrl wrote:

Big John who ever you are you speak common sense there are a few people having a go at the team and set up. As stated at the start of this thread at York your players showed a lot of balls and where the better team on the night. Dont rise to the antics of Bandito and Gargoyle probably never played or understand the requirements of Rugby League

Wrong on every count. Add coached Juniors, managed Youth and ran as secretary Youth and Junior section.

As for turning up for matches when not selected despite training-neither would I after four matches without being offered a sniff of a chance!

: Wed May 20, 2009 11:20 am  

yorkrl wrote:

Big John who ever you are you speak common sense there are a few people having a go at the team and set up. As stated at the start of this thread at York your players showed a lot of balls and where the better team on the night. Dont rise to the antics of Bandito and Gargoyle probably never played or understand the requirements of Rugby League

Thanks Yorkrl at last someone with understanding of what it takes to play at this level and realises that it takes more than a few weeks to build a succesful team i have watched them play in all of their games and like i have already said they give 110% every week, it will all come together soon people need to be patient and support them also to those people playing cricket because they have not been picked for a game need to decide are they part of the team or not as attendance to every game should come as standard regardless if they are playing or not with the exception of work commitments etc.

: Wed May 20, 2009 11:44 am  

Gargoyle wrote:

Wrong on every count. Add coached Juniors, managed Youth and ran as secretary Youth and Junior section.

As for turning up for matches when not selected despite training-neither would I after four matches without being offered a sniff of a chance!

that is a typical amateur game comment had the lad turned up last sat he probably would have got a game. Its not the junior league were players take it in turns to play at my previous amateur club turning up regardless came as standard.Staying away on match days isnt the answer to getting into the team the lad needs to be visible and his chance will come

: Wed May 20, 2009 11:53 am  

bigjohn wrote:

that is a typical amateur game comment had the lad turned up last sat he probably would have got a game. Its not the junior league were players take it in turns to play at my previous amateur club turning up regardless came as standard.Staying away on match days isnt the answer to getting into the team the lad needs to be visible and his chance will come

Sorry, should have mentioned chance to work, oversight on my part. My mates would rather play for reserves but turning down work to sit and watch is a no-brainer.
Playing cricket is important to them as well, so when the team is selected after training they have the choice.
As for turning up regardless of selection in team or not, hats off to 'bigjohn' for doing that. Will you be going to Whitehaven to sit in the stand, like I have in the past, if the player you travel with isn't in the 17? If so, I salute your dedication (and I'm not taking the p155)

: Wed May 20, 2009 12:10 pm  

Gargoyle wrote:

Sorry, should have mentioned chance to work, oversight on my part. My mates would rather play for reserves but turning down work to sit and watch is a no-brainer.
Playing cricket is important to them as well, so when the team is selected after training they have the choice.
As for turning up regardless of selection in team or not, hats off to 'bigjohn' for doing that. Will you be going to Whitehaven to sit in the stand, like I have in the past, if the player you travel with isn't in the 17? If so, I salute your dedication (and I'm not taking the p155)

Work commitments are an exception i have been fortunate to be associated with several players in the past some who now are playing for superleague clubs some of these players at 17 and 18 yrs also had other interests but there comes a time for a young lad to have to make choices in their lives about whats important to them as they often cannot give 100% commitment to both and yes thanks for the compliment Gargoyle i will be at the Whitehaven game regardless hope your mate gets his chance soon

: Wed May 20, 2009 12:17 pm  

yorkrl wrote:

Big John who ever you are you speak common sense there are a few people having a go at the team and set up. As stated at the start of this thread at York your players showed a lot of balls and where the better team on the night. Dont rise to the antics of Bandito and Gargoyle probably never played or understand the requirements of Rugby League

I coach Fev reserves mate, no antics here, just feel sorry for the players who are complaining about the way they are treated at Donny.

Who the hell asks every player to turn up on game day without telling them if they are playing or not?

Do they not have game prep the nigth before? Do they not hand tip sheets out to the 18 players selected? Do they not give the lads chance to prepare for a game the night before by knowing they are playing and therefore eat well and plenty of rest?

How long before the players who turn up every Saturday only to find out they aint playing think 'sod this, I am off on the beer the ngiht before now cos I never get picked nayway'

: Wed May 20, 2009 12:50 pm  

Bandito wrote:

:lol:
I coach Fev reserves mate, no antics here, just feel sorry for the players who are complaining about the way they are treated at Donny.

Who the hell asks every player to turn up on game day without telling them if they are playing or not?

Do they not have game prep the nigth before? Do they not hand tip sheets out to the 18 players selected? Do they not give the lads chance to prepare for a game the night before by knowing they are playing and therefore eat well and plenty of rest?

How long before the players who turn up every Saturday only to find out they aint playing think 'sod this, I am off on the beer the ngiht before now cos I never get picked nayway'

Prior to the Fev game the starting 13 were named at training on the thursday night the subs not named due to giving more time to players recovering from knocks and then due to unforseen circumstances 6 of the 13 were unable to play unforseen circumstances can occur at any time so players should be prepared for a call up at short notice and not take the initial team selection as written in stone.

Surely you as the Fev coach must have had to change your team on occasions at short notice