N Wales v Dons Sunday 6th August 2023 2.30 kick off : Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:54 pm  

This game is being played at Chester Rugby Union club. Table: Number in brackets is maximum achievable points 1. Dews 16, 29, +388 (33) 2. Huns 15, 24, +245 (30) 3. Dons 14, 22, +126 (30) 4. Work 15, 20, +165 (26) 5. Oldh 14, 19, +208 (27) 6. N Wal 16, 10, +35 (14) 7. Roch 14, 10, -120 (18) 8. Corn 15, 8, -349 (14) Team one is promoted automatically. Teams two to six are in the play-offs. Remaining games: 6th August: Cornwall v Oldham, N Wales v Dons, Dewsbury v Workington (Dewsbury are champions if they win), Rochdale v Hunslet 11th August: London v Dons 20th August: Dons v Cornwall, Hunslet v London, Rochdale v Oldham 27th August: Cornwall v Rochdale, N Wales v London, Dons v Dewsbury, Oldham v Midlands, Workington v Hunslet To Be Arranged: Oldham v Workington and Rochdale v London Play-off schedule: League One Play-offs

This game is being played at Chester Rugby Union club. Table: Number in brackets is maximum achievable points 1. Dews 16, 29, +388 (33) 2. Huns 15, 24, +245 (30) 3. Dons 14, 22, +126 (30) 4. Work 15, 20, +165 (26) 5. Oldh 14, 19, +208 (27) 6. N Wal 16, 10, +35 (14) 7. Roch 14, 10, -120 (18) 8. Corn 15, 8, -349 (14) Team one is promoted automatically. Teams two to six are in the play-offs. Remaining games: 6th August: Cornwall v Oldham, N Wales v Dons, Dewsbury v Workington (Dewsbury are champions if they win), Rochdale v Hunslet 11th August: London v Dons 20th August: Dons v Cornwall, Hunslet v London, Rochdale v Oldham 27th August: Cornwall v Rochdale, N Wales v London, Dons v Dewsbury, Oldham v Midlands, Workington v Hunslet To Be Arranged: Oldham v Workington and Rochdale v London Play-off schedule: League One Play-offs

Re: N Wales v Dons Sunday 6th August 2023 2.30 kick off : Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:36 pm  

Realistically the only match that should be "troublesome" is Dewsbury at home - Cornwall and London (Greatest respect to them) are opportunities to address our points difference, there is a chance to finish 2nd still but it means no more slip-ups and really getting those points for up.

Re: N Wales v Dons Sunday 6th August 2023 2.30 kick off : Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:57 pm  

We are capable of going there and getting the result, what the final score will be could be anyone's guess. The points difference column is something that we have spoken about frequently, when a side amasses a 60 point cushion against the bottom team then stupidly ships 30 points in the last quarter then it speaks volumes and this is what happens hoping we can close the points difference at this late stage.

We are capable of cementing third spot and giving Hunslet a proper game at theirs unlike the poo show from two weeks ago that's if Hunslet win at Rochdale and Workington (not as easy at it looks IMO) all to play for, intriguing run in.

Re: N Wales v Dons Sunday 6th August 2023 2.30 kick off : Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:56 pm  

I can't find any details for the play-off dates. There are two games that need to re-arranged (Oldham v Workington and Rochdale v London). Both are proving difficult to sort. I wonder if they will play on the weekend after the last official round with the play-offs beginning the following weekend?

Thinking about it, I don't think this would be fair as team two doesn't play in the first round of play-offs. With an extra week off, they'd be three weeks without a game.

Isn't it a poor state of affairs when fans can't even plan for the play-offs?

Re: N Wales v Dons Sunday 6th August 2023 2.30 kick off : Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:12 pm  

Double Movement wrote:

I can't find any details for the play-off dates. There are two games that need to re-arranged (Oldham v Workington and Rochdale v London). Both are proving difficult to sort. I wonder if they will play on the weekend after the last official round with the play-offs beginning the following weekend?

Thinking about it, I don't think this would be fair as team two doesn't play in the first round of play-offs. With an extra week off, they'd be three weeks without a game.

Isn't it a poor state of affairs when fans can't even plan for the play-offs?

I would not be surprised if they made them play in midweeek DM, probably the week when Workington are at home to Hunslet on the last regular Sunday. It is a poor effort and typical of the RL and its attitude to teams outside the top two Divisions.

Re: N Wales v Dons Sunday 6th August 2023 2.30 kick off : Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:19 pm  

Wilf Grimshaw wrote:

I would not be surprised if they made them play in midweeek DM, probably the week when Workington are at home to Hunslet on the last regular Sunday. It is a poor effort and typical of the RL and its attitude to teams outside the top two Divisions.

I think the problem is lack of stadium availability, Wilf. This makes the midweeks difficult.

It's crazy when you think about it, we have 97 blank weekends during a season and then end up with a fixture crisis trying to fit in 18 games a year!

Look on the bright side, there's plenty for IMG to work on!

Re: N Wales v Dons Sunday 6th August 2023 2.30 kick off : Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:39 pm  

Double Movement wrote:

I think the problem is lack of stadium availability, Wilf. This makes the midweeks difficult.

It's crazy when you think about it, we have 97 blank weekends during a season and then end up with a fixture crisis trying to fit in 18 games a year!

Look on the bright side, there's plenty for IMG to work on!

If they don't get it right it could end up as OMG

Re: N Wales v Dons Sunday 6th August 2023 2.30 kick off : Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:22 pm  

Wilf Grimshaw wrote:

If they don't get it right it could end up as OMG

I like it!

I've spent some time spinning through the RFLs Operational rules for the 2023 season.

* I can't find any reference to play-off dates.

* The 'end of season transfer deadline' is Friday 4th August.

* The play-off structure for 2023 is the same as last season.

I was trying to find out if loan players can play in the play-offs but could only find a reference that said Dual Reg players must have played at least four games before the 'transfer deadline' to qualify.

RFL rules Section C: 1: 2: 7 says: "For the avoidance of doubt, once a loan has expired or been terminated it cannot be reinstated after the end of season deadline irrespective of whether the player has played for his parent club."

On this basis, it looks like we must officially sign Albert Vete until the end of the season before Friday 4th August or else he won't be eligible to play for us afterwards. I'm still not totally sure what the 'play off rules' are for loan players.

Re: N Wales v Dons Sunday 6th August 2023 2.30 kick off : Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:54 am  

Talking about points difference....
Horne has said on at least two occasions that he doesn't give the lads a points target...I mean against lesser sides, obviously a win is what matters against better sides.
But I think that is a poor attitude when points difference is crucial.
But if I was the coach I would look at the average points scored against those sides and conceded and that would be my absolute minimum of acceptance...in fact I would want a dollop more.
So I would set a target...alright it is not always gonna be achieved...but if you don't set targets you get underperformance.
Another reason why he is crap and too laid back.

Re: N Wales v Dons Sunday 6th August 2023 2.30 kick off : Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:17 pm  

Spot on, S/O. In this league winning alone isn't enough. We've talked all season about Points Diff being vital. It could most certainly make the difference between coming second or third, with second having a huge advantage over third.

We're 119 points behind Hunslet with a game in hand. Let's guess at the Hunslet scores in their last three games...

Rochdale v Hunslet +10 to Hunslet. Hunslet v London +30 to Hunslet. Workington v Hunslet +6 to Hunslet. That's 46 points to the good for Hunslet giving them +165 altogether. They may do better than I've suggested but it provides an approximate target.

Where do we recoup those 165 points? N Wales +40, London +50, Cornwall +50, Dewsbury +25?

Looks like a tall order to me... all due to not being Points Diff savvy in our other matches throughout the season.