: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:47 pm  

What constitutes producing players in your opinion SRC?

I think its great that Fax are running an excellent scholarship and next year will run both reserves and academy. Widnes is already doing this and has a number of internationals on their scholarship and academy! Widnes has taken up an offer by the RFL to join ‘the trailblazers’ with their scholarship playing U15 & U16 in (like their academy) an elite competition against Wigan, Saints etc. Neither one of them could make super league at the next franchise, still a wise and sincere investment to both the areas and the game as a whole. From a reliable source out of RFL, Widnes has one of the best systems investing sport science support from a top university in to their young kids, and may not make super league. Yet Barra’ do completely the opposite and convince yourself you will do this?

Something else – Celtic have become an embarrassment to our sport and the RFL, as they flounder but will survive because of the support from RFL and their extremely hard working and talented staff, represent a maker in failure because of the lack of such infrastructure and will influence the next licensing bid from clubs such as Barra’. Basically if you NOT doing the lot, you not going to get in super league off the back of a promise and nice looking presentation of the business structure.

I believe you will win the grand final, but please don’t let it paper over the cracks in your plight’. The sacking, employing and re-sacking of the coaches says a lot about your big time Charlie of a chairmen, who will eventually run out money in his own personally needs for attention. It’s nice your profile has been raised and welcome back from all your suffering but success is about continuity and consistency over many years. Hull KR did it, but since then licensing has set the bar very high in terms of criteria.

There is no doubt SRC you have a dream but don’t insult our intelligence as foundations are always built first or maybe not when you build a ship, as this is your legacy and ultimately will be your undoing.
Enjoy winning the GF and we will enjoy reading your dreams

: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:09 am  

tyke03 wrote:

Not unique for any rugby league area - Yes they looked like they are born in Barrow as Rob Burrow and Joe Westerman were born and bred in Feth - with the excpetion of Ade Gardner you did nothing to develop them of provide them with an opportunity! yep nothing - Barra's claim to fame: as with Stan Laural and Emliy Hughes they were born there (or there abouts)

Think about what a Successful Organisation requires or just a successful team on the park at the moment while supported by a wealthy benefactor?

I would say 100k invested in youth alone and that’s above all your other outlays

You been drinking bitter lemon, who said it was unique ? I did'nt.

: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:15 am  

We're not sorry for building a very competitive side before we restructure the non playing side of things.

As our crowds have grown steadily so have our income streams
Hopefully we will begin our restructuring in the close season.

: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:58 pm  

Like I said - I hope so, for your sake or you will be bitterly disappointed when they so no. It was I who stated ‘nothing unique’ as I was referring to the fact your club doesn’t produce super league players, however you area does! Rember the questions – what constitutes producing players?

Shame about tonight I really hoped you could have bagged it! Why on earth have the made themselves look complete hypocrites by reinstalling former wanna bees and how much of a mug are they for taking the job back on!? All the same Good luck Thursday – what’s your form like at the valley of death?

Re: Barrow, can we produce & buy a SL TEAM : Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:57 am  

mick wilson wrote:

Barrow RL, CAN GO IT ALONE.

Everything both on & off the pitch is on the up and has increased every year in the last four years and is expected to increase again next season.

Look at the Barrow born players currently playing SL
1,Gardner
2,Gardner
3,Lupton
4,Harrison
5,Wilkes

Several Barrow born u18/u16 players are earning rave reviews in various SL academy sides.

Add to the mix ((if)) Barrow RL were in the SL then several of the Cumbrian West coast lads would probably rather play for Barrow SL Club than the others, not all and maybe not the most but some.

If Barrow were really competing in the SL then probably most would want to stay local-ish.

BARROW RUGBY LEAGUE for SUPERLEAGUE.

Your post sums up exactly what is going wrong at Barrow.
Your ( Des's) money can buy players but cannot buy a team nor success.

Teams need to be built up over a couple of years.
Des has fooled you all in beliveing that you can have instant success less than 10 months after gaining promotion, with all the talk of League leaders, Gf and SL etce etc.

You have had a great seasons, but the team spirit and belief fromall connected at the clib must have suffered a massive dent in th last few days, culminating in last nights result.

The playoffs I fear are going to be tough for you.

And before the usual culprits throw accistaions of jealousy, nothing of th sort.
You are rightly placed at the top for now, my team had no aspirations to finish anywahere near where we have so far. Anything from now for us is a bonus.

Finally I cannot understand why the Barrow fans are not up in arms with how Des ( not the BOD) have acted in the last few days.

How the hell are you going to attract the next coach???
make no mistake if you do get Karl Harrison, Des and him will be on collision course from day 1.

Goodluck for the rest of the season.

: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:12 pm  

Champs of the league

Pride of Cumbria

: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:25 pm  

fekafan17 wrote:

If you look at the squad we have at the moment, including injured players. Our team is strong enough for Super League, now. We are currently top of the league, and are placed as the best side outside the top flight.

Ok i admit uve proberbly been the best team consistantly all yr but ur squad is not super league quailty yet if you did get in to super league with this squad ud be toast and u would need a much better squad with major signings needed

: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:51 pm  

Widdy Widnes wrote:

Ok i admit uve proberbly been the best team consistantly all yr but ur squad is not super league quailty yet if you did get in to super league with this squad ud be toast and u would need a much better squad with major signings needed

Is the sun hot

Any more of your statetheblindlyobvious we should know about

Re: Barrow, can we produce & buy a SL TEAM : Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:12 pm  

njg4haven wrote:

Finally I cannot understand why the Barrow fans are not up in arms with how Des ( not the BOD) have acted in the last few days.

Because most of the fans know the FACTS about Clarky initially stepping down and the Deakin's departure.

Regarding a new coach ..... watch this space.

: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:34 pm  

tyke03 wrote:

What constitutes producing players in your opinion SRC?

I think its great that Fax are running an excellent scholarship and next year will run both reserves and academy. Widnes is already doing this and has a number of internationals on their scholarship and academy! Widnes has taken up an offer by the RFL to join ‘the trailblazers’ with their scholarship playing U15 & U16 in (like their academy) an elite competition against Wigan, Saints etc. Neither one of them could make super league at the next franchise, still a wise and sincere investment to both the areas and the game as a whole. From a reliable source out of RFL, Widnes has one of the best systems investing sport science support from a top university in to their young kids, and may not make super league. Yet Barra’ do completely the opposite and convince yourself you will do this?

Barrow are a pretty unique 'traditional' RL club in that there are no other pro clubs within a 90 minute drive. Because of that, over the years all the local Amateur clubs have pretty much acted as 'feeder' clubs, with all the area's best youngsters signing pro forms at Barrow. A lot stayed and a lot left. There were a few that slipped through the net as well.

We probably average 7-8 'locals' in every side fielded this year. Most of which came through local amateur clubs.

Having a SL standard youth set-up is commendable, especially for clubs along the M62, but if those clubs remain in the Championship then SL will cherry pick all the better players for themselves. Money wasted.

Barrow RL have extremely strong links with the community, schools and amateur clubs. If we remain competitive in the Championship then I'm sure that an improved youth set-up will become financially viable.

The core of this years team/squad (Harrison, Nixon, McDermott, Ellis, Finch, Butler, Larkin, Holt, and Ostler) have been part of the club for several years, so I find the comment about 'building' a team bizarre.