Eden : Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:23 am  

were did we go wrong what a winger he has turned out to be would he be has good IF (and its a big if ) we had kept him would tim sheen be able to do the same with him, is it because we had crap coaches that was not able to see what he was good at

Re: Eden : Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:57 am  

cravenpark1 wrote:

were did we go wrong what a winger he has turned out to be would he be has good IF (and its a big if ) we had kept him would tim sheen be able to do the same with him, is it because we had crap coaches that was not able to see what he was good at

No disrespect intended but he's no world beater. Every winger who's played on that side for Cas have scored bucket loads. I think its a lot to do with the style they play rather than the skill of the winger (although the tries still need to be scored)

Re: Eden : Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:06 am  

Oooo here we go! Put Eden in the Wire team low on confidence and he is as he always was. There are a ton of average players playing out of their skin for Powell! Good on em. I compare it to the Melbourne Storm where average guys look like world betters there. They move to other clubs and look garbage.

Re: Eden : Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:52 am  

Powell has not let him anywhere near the full back shirt...he would have made a top class winger at Rovers too but we believed the "Billy Slater" comparison.

He scores some cracking tries even on the end of some top rugby, doubt even Ryan Hall would have scored some of the ones Eden has...

Re: Eden : Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:03 am  

Playing outside Shenton in a team that is settled with a team of seasoned pro's is a lot to do with him playing well. Our club & Eden under Sandercock was put back years I blame him for a lot of problems Webster & Chester had. At least under Sheens we seem to be heading in the right direction whether it will be good enough is to bee seen.

Re: Eden : Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:13 am  

With the right set up and right plays you don't need world beaters on the wing, someone with a bit of pace and an eye for the line will score a boat load. I'd reckon just about any winger in the league would be on 20+ in that team with the way they've been playing. To say Ryan Hall wouldn't have scored them is a bit silly, he'd probably have more.
Fair play to Greg, I like the kid and glad its going well for him but stick him in most other teams and he'd be run of the mill with flashes of brilliance.

Re: Eden : Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:10 pm  

barham red wrote:

With the right set up and right plays you don't need world beaters on the wing, someone with a bit of pace and an eye for the line will score a boat load. I'd reckon just about any winger in the league would be on 20+ in that team with the way they've been playing. To say Ryan Hall wouldn't have scored them is a bit silly, he'd probably have more.
Fair play to Greg, I like the kid and glad its going well for him but stick him in most other teams and he'd be run of the mill with flashes of brilliance.

He has Gale moving the ball to his side and a class centre in Shenton who provides him mostly walk in tries.
Put any of HKR young wings or Hull fc reserves like Naughton or Rawsthorne on the Castleford left wing and they would do what Eden does.

Re: Eden : Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:40 pm  

Credit where it's due, he's obviously ironed out the flaws in his game whilst he was down under, and obviously not a regular full back (although he played there last week when Powell rested Hardaker).

He is blessed with pace to burn and finishes well. Good luck to him, I hope he gets the recognition he deserves.

Re: Eden : Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:25 pm  

bonaire wrote:

He has Gale moving the ball to his side and a class centre in Shenton who provides him mostly walk in tries.
Put any of HKR young wings or Hull fc reserves like Naughton or Rawsthorne on the Castleford left wing and they would do what Eden does.

Are you seriously saying Naughton or Rawsthorne (or Shaw) would be joint favourite for Man of Steel if they just switched to the Cas left wing...????

He has scored some wonder tries that even the far less athletic Ryan Hall would have no chance with...the combination of Brisbane and Daryl Powell has unlocked all the potential everyone could see. The task for Powell is to get him to carry it on.

Re: Eden : Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:39 pm  

Peter Mannion wrote:

Are you seriously saying Naughton or Rawsthorne (or Shaw) would be joint favourite for Man of Steel if they just switched to the Cas left wing...????

He has scored some wonder tries that even the far less athletic Ryan Hall would have no chance with...the combination of Brisbane and Daryl Powell has unlocked all the potential everyone could see. The task for Powell is to get him to carry it on.

If the only criteria for MOS is scoring gimme's on the wing for cas then the award is worthless. It's supposed to be the best player who wins it and I fail to see how that could ever be a winger