Re: 17 for Wembley : Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:23 pm  

RoverAndOut wrote:

His fair flicks around too much in the tackle...

It always makes it look like he has had his head jolted back and that he has been whiplashed, when it's only his greased locks that are jolted!

Actually, it's called a "renash". Saw it on Call My Bluff.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:26 pm  

EL CAMO wrote:

Okay Bob, we'll see. But this plan is not at all easy to execute against a brilliant kicker. As someone further up has said if Mantellato is involved in the previous tackle, your entire system is knackered. I fear Leeds tactical planning may be slightly better than Leigh and Halifax's and dare I say it, even yours, astute observer though you are.

Good Lord! I think we're being a bit harsh on our full backs. So if Leeds take The Man Tomato out of the equation and kick to our fullback, that's what the fullback is there for. If we're so scared of either of them facing a high ball they shouldn't even be our full backs.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:14 pm  

redbeard wrote:

Good Lord! I think we're being a bit harsh on our full backs. So if Leeds take The Man Tomato out of the equation and kick to our fullback, that's what the fullback is there for. If we're so scared of either of them facing a high ball they shouldn't even be our full backs.

I like them both as players but I'd say they're both below average at defusing bombs, wouldn't you?

Re: 17 for Wembley : Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:42 am  

Maybe, but the fact remains that they are our full backs. You can't form a game plan around ensuring that your full back never has to defuse a bomb. It's like putting a prop out there and trying to make sure nobody big ever runs at him.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:47 am  

A shock could be Blair at right centre.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:47 am  

Robin Redbreast wrote:

I think we need to smash them up the middle with high intensity destroy their forwards and in the process we will be protecting Dixon anyway. I think the final will be decided on which team turns up with the most belief and the right attitude, there is no room for nerves and no room for errors unlike Sunday against Halifax.

Trying to play them up the middle is a sure fire way of losing, our strength is playing out wide, as long as its not reckless its our only chance

Re: 17 for Wembley : Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:09 am  

SirStan wrote:

You do realise this is Rovers we are talking about don't you?

Welcome to the board by the way. What's your beef with Kev Larroyer?

Because he kicked off with that young kid against Halifax then when the lad retaliated he did a brown onion in his shorts.
But more seriously I just don't think his form has been good of late although I will say he a decent first half against Warrington. The philosophy all year seems to have been to pick players on form so why change it now it's not like Leeds are a tough team to beat anyway!

Re: 17 for Wembley : Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:15 am  

barham red wrote:

Trying to play them up the middle is a sure fire way of losing, our strength is playing out wide, as long as its not reckless its our only chance

Agree and Disagree. But if you look at the last 2 challenge cup games the forwards dominated the ruck and I think if we don't control or at least match Leeds up the middle they will trample us up the middle with arguably the best pack in the competition. With maybe the exception of Hudds they probably have the best sliding defence too so although wel no doubt attack out wide it may not be the smartest move when we have one of the best strike players in Albert Kelly who can create something out of nothing.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:19 am  

redbeard wrote:

Maybe, but the fact remains that they are our full backs. You can't form a game plan around ensuring that your full back never has to defuse a bomb. It's like putting a prop out there and trying to make sure nobody big ever runs at him.

That was the point that I was making, His Bobness made the claim that Mantellato could just sweep through the middle and deal with any kicks targeted at the full back.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:54 am  

Robin Redbreast wrote:

Because he kicked off with that young kid against Halifax then when the lad retaliated he did a brown onion in his shorts.
But more seriously I just don't think his form has been good of late although I will say he a decent first half against Warrington. The philosophy all year seems to have been to pick players on form so why change it now it's not like Leeds are a tough team to beat anyway!

Larroyer has been one of our top tacklers all season