Re: 17 for Wembley : Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:17 pm  

Combination of both.

Wire don't have a decent kicking game out of their half backs.

Our line speed was incredibly worrying at times.

My biggest concern, and one that Leeds will exploit is that we're very poor on kick pressure.

If we allow Sinfield et al time, we'll find ourselves having to do ninety metres every set.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:06 am  

It was that Salford game that caused everyone to conclude that Dixon was a liability under the high ball (Judging by Tomato's taking of all the high balls after that it seems that this was Chester's conclusion as well), but within the other games Dixon had taken some unbelievable high balls under pressure and had ran them out making valuable metres ......If Dixon has a mare in the final we will lose, but if Dixon has a great game in the final then we could very well go on to win it ......And the same applies to Kelly ......If these two players perform on the day, we have a chance.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:10 am  

I'm more concerned about our two centres than catching bombs, they've both been poor defensively in recent weeks, Salter is normally a good defender but he's looked out of sorts for some reason. Luckily they'll only be up against two average centres at Leeds

Re: 17 for Wembley : Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:35 pm  

Have been away and not seen much of recent games.
Allgood was our best forward before being injured so has to play. Tilse was good in all the cup games and though isn't spectacular by any means is very good technically and does his share.
Walker Puletua should play also. If Green brings some attitude then he could help us get on top. If he doesn't he'll amble about contributing little. Has he deserved it on recent performances?
Puletua to second row or loose man for me.
Larroyer to play to. Horne and McCarthy too with one of these on the bench with Boudebza who continues to inspire. I love Toulouse Leutrec.
Dixon every time at full back. Le#ds will be terrified of him on that big pitch.
Hope Albert makes it. Chisholm to centre...again haven't seen enough.
Salter is tedious with the ball. 17 tries in 75 games is poor for a back row forward never mind a centre. He gives his wingers nothing. Maybe 2 assists for Sio all year. Most of his tries are from kicks or cut out passes. Big opportunity though for Salter to defend well. Their centres are terrifying. Watkins is world class and getting better. Don't see him making a mistake or taking wrong options. Man of Steel this year.
I hope for rain. We pressured wire and Wigan in the wet and they fell apart. Maybe a downpour could bring us the cup.
Can't wait for this.
Wish everyone a good trip and a great game.
Let's raise the roof off the place!

Re: 17 for Wembley : Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:50 pm  

After the Widnes game today during which we displayed the sort of defensive intensity, resolve and spirit we will need again next week, here is my controversial starting 17 for Wembley:

Dixon
Mantellato
Welham
Salter
Sio
Blair
Kelly
Walker
Lunt
Tilse
McCarthy
Larroyer
Puletua

Allgood
Green
Horne
Boudebza

Re: 17 for Wembley : Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:02 pm  

Pickering Red wrote:

After the Widnes game today during which we displayed the sort of defensive intensity, resolve and spirit we will need again next week, here is my controversial starting 17 for Wembley:

Dixon
Mantellato
Welham
Salter
Sio
Blair
Kelly
Walker
Lunt
Tilse
McCarthy
Larroyer
Puletua

Allgood
Green
Horne
Boudebza

Something like for me. Maybe Allgood to start and Tilse to come on to counter Leuluai.
Maybe Blair to second row and Chisolm at half back. If he is in the 17 that maybe to cover Albert if he isn't 100%.
We worry about Dixon under the bomb but Briscoe is atrocious. Kicking for Mantellato over him will bring us points.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:09 pm  

I wouldn't have Puletua at Loose man though!

Re: 17 for Wembley : Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:11 pm  

Jism shouldn't be anywhere near the seventeen even if Kelly doesn't make it.

From Pickering Red's team, I'd leave the backs as they are, and go Walker, Lunt, Tilse, Larroyer, Horne, McCarthy in the pack, interchange of Puletua, Boudebza, Allgood and Green.

It's essential that our kicking game is top notch, we need to be turning Leeds's pack at the end of every set and making them start in their ten/twenty.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:22 pm  

Could anyone imagine Marsh Partnering Kelly in the halves? What a stage to announce yourself. Won't happen obviously. But he had a decent game in atrocious conditions today.

Re: 17 for Wembley : Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:41 pm  

No, he's shown promise, but he's not an out and out obvious super star.

I would however put him on the bench over Chisholm if we have concerns that Kelly won't be able to play the eighty.

I'm concerned that we played Cockayne at full back today,I think we should have gone with Dixon (although we did switch him there in the second half), Dixon has to play on the vast space of Wembley.

Such a shame for us and Campese that he can't play.