[R.B.A]

Re: Catalans today : Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:45 am  

barham red wrote:

To be fair to Joel he does run it in at pace and certainly doesn't do the highland jig 3 paces before the line surrender like a lot do. The main problem with our packs line speed is that we play a flat line and the forwards never seem to get the ball and are allowed to run at pace (except from the kick off etc). Add to that he got some stinkers of passes yesterday and had to check his run to catch the ball and losing the momentum.

I dont think we play any where near flat enough when bringing the ball out of our end. Funny how opinions differ!

Re: Catalans today : Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:59 am  

R.B.A wrote:

I dont think we play any where near flat enough when bringing the ball out of our end. Funny how opinions differ!

I also dont think Clinton is Rovers problem.

Re: Catalans today : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:02 pm  

Big Dave T wrote:

I also dont think Clinton is Rovers problem.

Take the ON off and you'd have one of the problems

[R.B.A]

Re: Catalans today : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:03 pm  

Big Dave T wrote:

I also dont think Clinton is Rovers problem.

I half find myself wanting to ask you what you think Rovers problem is but also half realising it would be the biggest mistake i make this week.....and its only monday.

Re: Catalans today : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:04 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

With hindsight, morgan shouldn't have turned down fitzgibbon, o'meley and moa when they came knowcking (according to zod anyway)

sI've een the incident on youtube where clinton gets knocked out. Notwithstanding that fact (which was a complete accident due to a head clash), what has happened to him as a player? Looked like he could run through a brick wall when he took that ball in. Seen none of it at rovers

Well your a Hull fans, not like you can say uve seen much of him is it? the times we've been on sky our FULL team as been woeful; so that takes it down to errrr 1 derby game?

For me he was MOM on sunday - massive hits going in; how Vella got it only proves to me that those sponsers that pick really dont have a clue.

Re: Catalans today : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:09 pm  

barham red wrote:

To be fair to Joel he does run it in at pace and certainly doesn't do the highland jig 3 paces before the line surrender like a lot do. The main problem with our packs line speed is that we play a flat line and the forwards never seem to get the ball and are allowed to run at pace (except from the kick off etc). Add to that he got some stinkers of passes yesterday and had to check his run to catch the ball and losing the momentum.

Joel does hit the ball up hard and makes good yards, but the fact he is a straight line runner rather than a prop with footwork and technique is why i would use him from the bench where i think he'd be far more useful to the team. Also i'm assuming when you said line speed you meant ruck speed. Rovers ruck speed problems are down in main to slow and inconsistent play the ball speed. Its an area Rovers have show very little improvement in imo.

Re: Catalans today : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:10 pm  

Seen him a few times on SKY. If you watch the youtube footage he looks very impressive (until the head clash) and I've seen none of that in the games I've watched him play

Re: Catalans today : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:11 pm  

R.B.A wrote:

I half find myself wanting to ask you what you think Rovers problem is but also half realising it would be the biggest mistake i make this week.....and its only monday.

I'll answer anyway.

I think it's a combination of having no recognised quality 6, not using Murrell at 13, Galea and Newton not living up to last years form and a relatively weak front row with only Clinton and Vella been upto it and even then Vella is strapped up like mad every week. I also think there's a serious lack of impact from Rovers interchange bench, something which most top teams need.

Just my view looking from the outside and based purely on what i see on TV and the reports i read.

Re: Catalans today : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:14 pm  

very red robin wrote:

Well your a Hull fans, not like you can say uve seen much of him is it? the times we've been on sky our FULL team as been woeful; so that takes it down to errrr 1 derby game?

For me he was MOM on sunday - massive hits going in; how Vella got it only proves to me that those sponsers that pick really dont have a clue.

You seriously thought Clinton was mom yesterday?? FWIW i didn't think Vella was either but he played a hell of a lot more minutes than Clinton and was completely error free.

I thought Welham was mom in all honesty.

Re: Catalans today : Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:16 pm  

MrPhilb wrote:

Take the ON off and you'd have one of the problems

Your best player, surely?