last nights NCL meeting : Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:00 am  

Anyone know the outcome?

Re: last nights NCL meeting : Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:35 am  

Voted 28-10 in favour of a switch to summer.
Be interesting to see what happens at a local league level now.

Re: last nights NCL meeting : Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:52 am  

jaydubya wrote:

Voted 28-10 in favour of a switch to summer.
Be interesting to see what happens at a local league level now.

NWC vote Monday

[JTB]

Re: last nights NCL meeting : Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:08 am  

http://loverugbyleague.com/news_5332-su ... eague.html No formal word on what the proposals are for the existing summer structure yet.

http://loverugbyleague.com/news_5332-su ... eague.html No formal word on what the proposals are for the existing summer structure yet.

Re: last nights NCL meeting : Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:32 pm  

jaydubya wrote:

Voted 28-10 in favour of a switch to summer.
Be interesting to see what happens at a local league level now.

Cumberland League already voted to trial a summer season (Mar-Nov) from 2012.

Re: last nights NCL meeting : Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:09 pm  

At NWC, not a vote but clubs asked what they think. 12 summer, 13 undecided, 23 winter - rest not here. Give and take a bit there as I tried to not count NCL clubs as people were asked. Obviously some clubs not here....

Re: last nights NCL meeting : Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:26 am  

More of an update from NWC:

Clubs were simply asked to express what it was likely they would do. IT WAS NOT A VOTE ON NWC SWITCHING. The NWC committee has already decided they will continue offering winter rugby to those clubs who want it.

There are NCL clubs with teams in the NWC of course so when clubs were asked the committee member tried not to read their names out (as they're deciding through other routes) but she did read a few out (Eccles for example) and hence, the results were a little confused (as were some attendees at the end!).

My numbers were:

12 summer (I tried not to count any NCL club)
13 undecided
23 winter
with at least 10 not present

the numbers read out at the end were something like:

18 summer (but that definately included some NCL clubs whose names were read out!)
13 undecided
22 winter

The split was pretty much as expected - the traditional teams (and those higher up the structure) saying winter in the main and those choosing summer being mainly newer clubs (Accrington, Bury, Chorley etc.). The North Lancs district had the most wanting a switch - I didn't record every answer but for Manchester it was 2 summer, 3 winter, one undecided. For other areas some seemed solidly winter. There were some notable exceptions to those patterns so it will be interesting to see what happens. I imagine some undecided clubs will go each way.

A few reps in the room were asking questions about the summer structure - i was pretty surprised that they hadn't already looked into the proposals!

But there you have it - we'll get a smaller NWC (3 divisions less at least I reckon), and others switching to summer. Over the next few years I think more will drift out of winter as youngsters (who must go to summer surely!) filter into the open age ranks.

Re: last nights NCL meeting : Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:30 am  

Of the NCL teams with 2nd teams in the NWCL, 11 of the 12 teams had already voted to take their first teams to the summer, and as a result their NWC sides would follow. Only Ince RB had voted for winter at last week's NCL meeting and stated at tonight's meeting that they were undecided what they were going to do.

In the poll clubs were given 3 options Summer, Winter or Undecided

The NWCL Management said that they would continue to run a winter league for those clubs that wanted it.

22 clubs indicated they wanted to remain in winter.

13 (including Ince RB) said they were as yet undecided.

20 (including 11 out of 12 NCL clubs) said they wanted to move to summer.

10 clubs were absent (Mostly from Barrow).

The NCL clubs are Crosfields (Div 5), Eccles (Div 4), Leigh East (Div 1), Leigh Miners(Div 1), Oldham St.Annes (Div 1), Rochdale Mayfield (Div 4), Saddleworth Div 4), Thatto Heath (Div1), Waterhead (Div 4), Wigan St,Judes (Div 2), Wigan St,Pats (Div 2).

The Other Clubs were
Accrington Panthers (NE Lancs - Div 6)
Bury Broncos (Lancs - Div 5)
Chorley Panthers (Lancs - Div 5)
Fitton Hill (Oldham - Div 6)
Folly Lane (Swinton - Div 1)
Leyland Warriors (Lancs - Div 3)
Little Hulton (Salford - Div 6)
Newton Storm (St.Helens - Div 5)
Woolston (Warrington - Div 2)

Of the absent clubs Bank Quay Bulls (Warrington - Prem Div) had previously shown and interest in moving to summer according to Ron Girvin.

Will be interesting to see which way the undecided clubs fall but it looks like a big shake up is on the cards no matter what.

Ince RB have said that their NCL team will be going to summer desite voting No initially. Which mean it is highly likely that their NWC team will follow suit.

Re: last nights NCL meeting : Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:39 am  

The NCL side of this seems to be pretty well sorted but who will provide meaningful opposition for the likes of BQ? Lots of clubs on the NWC list seem to be caught in limbo, not meeting NCL criteria nor relevant opposition to play. A long way to go on this one I think.

Re: last nights NCL meeting : Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:58 am  

Worst case scenerio IMO for NWC winter leagues is we only end up with 3/4 10 team leagues.